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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
So what's up with actives not remembering basic things from their pledgeship like the founding values and purpose of their organization? Is that something that isn't frowned upon in many GLOs?
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Frowned or not, these sorts of things happen. I think it comes partially from the NPC/NIC tradition of joining your first semester/year of college. People change a lot over college, so the things that were hammered into them as being "really important" when they joined their freshman year may, like so much else that was really important freshman year, seem not as vital by the time they reach their later years. I'm not justifying this, but it happens.
Also, many fraternities, in particular, are very different beasts now than their original founded form. Many members may not associate or connect their fraternity/sorority experience, as they personally experience it, with the things that some guys sat down in the 1840's and thought up.
Besides, suppose someone reaches their senior year and can't remember (or pretends not to remember, to seem cool and tough) their founding principles. What are you going to do, grill them? Kick them out? How would you even find out that they can't remember all 15 founders' first, middle and last names? Remembering and treasuring the traditions of an organization can be encouraged, but the decision eventually comes down to the individual, sooner or later.
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As to why people like sasquatch don't really identify as strongly with their national fraternity as their own chapter: many fraternity men disagree deeply with the current policies of their national organization, and the way that the national organization chooses to interpret their founding values. I could go into details, (mostly from other organizations besides my own, for the record) but I'll refrain.
Also, on a more personal note, it may sometimes be easier to feel proud of your undergrad chapter than the national fraternity. National fraternities (and sororities) are such great sprawling organizations that someone's bound to do something stupid while associated with your letters, like encouraging their brother to drink himself to death on his 21st birthday, or sexually assaulting a stripper (although they were later exonerated... kind of), or getting liquored up and trashing a hotel room in Colorado.
Now, how about those biggest rush mistakes?