Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

You must have missed my point. We do all that anyways.

Yeah, but the hypocrisy would bug me and you'd be free of it.

I wouldn't want to publicly be in a group that wanted me to use standards that I felt not only free to disregard, but that disregarding them was essential to maintaining the membership I wanted.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Yeah, but the hypocrisy would bug me and you'd be free of it.

I wouldn't want to publicly be in a group that wanted me to use standards that I felt not only free to disregard, but that disregarding them was essential to maintaining the membership I wanted.

It's just what I (and the rest of my chapter) have always known. Same goes for guys in other chapters on my campus (and other campuses). I honestly didn't know chapters followed what nationals said so closely (or at all) till I found this site.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

It's just what I (and the rest of my chapter) have always known. Same goes for guys in other chapters on my campus (and other campuses). I honestly didn't know chapters followed what nationals said so closely (or at all) till I found this site.

Well, following national membership guidelines is only part of it from my point of view. There's also not feeling the historic tie nationally. If you're a local at heart, which it seems like you are, I'd want the full local autonomy. No chapter reports, no national dues, no national rules about parties, little sister groups, etc.

On the other hand, if you felt like, say you were a KA, and you were all about Robert E Lee as a spiritual founder and the earlier principles of the group, but you just weren't feeling the brotherhood with some of the other chapters, then I could see why not giving up the letters, history and symbols would be important.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Well, following national membership guidelines is only part of it from my point of view. There's also not feeling the historic tie nationally. If you're a local at heart, which it seems like you are, I'd want the full local autonomy. No chapter reports, no national dues, no national rules about parties, little sister groups, etc.

On the other hand, if you felt like, say you were a KA, and you were all about Robert E Lee as a spiritual founder and the earlier principles of the group, but you just weren't feeling the brotherhood with some of the other chapters, then I could see why not giving up the letters, history and symbols would be important.

Again, I feel that if every chapter who felt compelled to do so followed this advice...well national GLO's would become pretty scarce. It is not abnormal (from what I have seen) to feel the way my chapter does. It's just the way it is.

ETA: It's not that we hate nationals or even really dislike them. It's just that we will always do what benefits our chapter, regardless of nationals' policy. It's not something we actively think about or anything.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Again, I feel that if every chapter who felt compelled to do so followed this advice...well national GLO's would become pretty scarce. It is not abnormal (from what I have seen) to feel the way my chapter does. It's just the way it is.

ETA: It's not that we hate nationals or even really dislike them. It's just that we will always do what benefits our chapter, regardless of nationals' policy. It's not something we actively think about or anything.

So you're basically (insert fraternity affiliation) chapter of (insert chapter designation) sorority. Almost like your chapter is bigger than the sorority.

Bad idea. But I see it a lot with GLOs and BGLOs. Often from people who have not had any activity with the organization since they graduated. Their idea of organizational dues are when they give back to, and visit, their home chapter.

For BLGOs, this is frowned upon in particular because that is not what a lifetime commitment is about and it goes against our Founding principles and respect for the National entity. Giving back to, and visiting, your home chapter is expected for most of us but organizational dues are paid to the national body--and only through the chapter of current affiliation/member-at-large.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

So you're basically (insert fraternity affiliation) chapter of (insert chapter designation) sorority. Almost like your chapter is bigger than the sorority.

Bad idea. But I see it a lot with GLOs and BGLOs. Often from people who have not had any activity with the organization since they graduated. Their idea of organizational dues are when they give back to, and visit, their home chapter.

For BLGOs, this is frowned upon in particular because that is not what a lifetime commitment is about and it goes against our Founding principles and respect for the National entity. Giving back to, and visiting, your home chapter is expected for most of us but organizational dues are paid to the national body--and only through the chapter of current affiliation/member-at-large.

I think he's an active fraternity member right now, so it seems a little bit more reasonable to be wrapped around the specific chapter, especially if you aren't NPHC.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I think he's an active fraternity member right now, so it seems a little bit more reasonable to be wrapped around the specific chapter, especially if you aren't NPHC.

I know he's an active.

It isn't more reasonable to be wrapped around the specific chapter if that means you don't consider nonchapter members your brothers.

It isn't just frowned upon in the NPHC--that's a fact. I just typed from the standpoint of an NPHC member to illustrate why it is frowned upon for us.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

So you're basically (insert fraternity affiliation) chapter of (insert chapter designation) sorority. Almost like your chapter is bigger than the sorority.
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I'm a guy, just to set that straight.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

I'm a guy, just to set that straight.

Yeah I had edited the fraternity part and forget I had typed "sorority" two other times.

Sorority...fraternity...same point.