Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

These are fine with me and are exclusive to white, middle class men, of course.

Men who love to golf or work in certain fields have to own khakis and oxford cloth shirts to survive.

Oh, absolutely, but I'm not sure it's the social uniform for them like it is for the demographic I described. I'd put the number of days that my dad didn't wear those items at fewer than 10% and he's not a golfer. (Well, for it to literally be true, I suppose I'd have to include polo shirts.) I'm not sure he owns jeans (or has ever owned them for that matter). And it's not that my dad is a khaki wearing freak; it's true for a whole category of southern men.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Oh, absolutely, but I'm not sure it's the social uniform for them like it is for the demographic I described.

I agree. I was actually thinking of polo shirt and not oxford shirt.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Oh, absolutely, but I'm not sure it's the social uniform for them like it is for the demographic I described. I'd put the number of days that my dad didn't wear those items at fewer than 10% and he's not a golfer. (Well, for it to literally be true, I suppose I'd have to include polo shirts.) I'm not sure he owns jeans (or has ever owned them for that matter). And it's not that my dad is a khaki wearing freak; it's true for a whole category of southern men.

Agreed. Levis 501's (and similar styles) are the only acceptable jeans, but after undergrad, it's time to hang them up unless you're on the farm or something. Other than that, jeans should not be worn by those older than, say, 22. T shirts are the same IMO. They're ok to wear to class while an undergrad, but only to class, and you should still have a collar on your shirt 95% of the time. After college, T shirts are unacceptable (even for running to the store real quick) unless working out.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Agreed. Levis 501's (and similar styles) are the only acceptable jeans, but after undergrad, it's time to hang them up unless you're on the farm or something. Other than that, jeans should not be worn by those older than, say, 22. T shirts are the same IMO. They're ok to wear to class while an undergrad, but only to class, and you should still have a collar on your shirt 95% of the time. After college, T shirts are unacceptable (even for running to the store real quick) unless working out.

If I knew a guy who never ever wore jeans, I'd think he was the biggest geek in the history of the universe. I mean...the founder of our company wears jeans and he's pushing 60 (and he looks great in them).

This post just made me think that sasquatch must dress like Robbie, Chip and Ernie.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This post just made me think that sasquatch must dress like Robbie, Chip and Ernie.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! (I miss that show!)

[UGAalum94]

I think it's a very regional thing. Among a certain type of southern guy, who isn't really nerdy despite what you're imagining, what we're saying is completely true.

It's not that they give it a lot of thought; it's just that they buy khakis instead of jeans and pretty much only wear t-shirts as undershirts. And this type of guy tends to be overrepresented in "good" fraternity chapters in the south.
(Hunter/fisherman types probably still buy jeans, but they wouldn't wear them too many places socially in adulthood.)

If you want to be in the chapters that are made up of these kind of guys, it's in your best interest to seem to be one of them.

In a different region, like the Southwest, the same type of guys probably wears jeans a lot; these things are going to vary a lot by climate and common activities.

ETA: I want to add that other chapters on SEC campuses tend to follow suit in their expectations, even if it's primarily made up of guys from the suburbs who grew up wearing cargo shorts and graphic t-shirts in high school. I'm basing this on my dad, my brother and conversations with former students, as well as my experience as an undergraduate, so my indirect observation window is a 50 year span on multiple SEC campuses. Sure, it may not be this way everywhere, but consider that a guy rushing in khakis and a polo is probably okay most places so no harm is done, but a guy rushing in cargo shorts and a T-shirt is probably limiting himself in some regions.

[Beryana]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Agreed. Levis 501's (and similar styles) are the only acceptable jeans, but after undergrad, it's time to hang them up unless you're on the farm or something. Other than that, jeans should not be worn by those older than, say, 22. T shirts are the same IMO. They're ok to wear to class while an undergrad, but only to class, and you should still have a collar on your shirt 95% of the time. After college, T shirts are unacceptable (even for running to the store real quick) unless working out.

So you are saying that I should be outside painting my house (or putting up a fence, or working on a car, etc) wearing khakis and a collared shirt?! Oh, how about refinishing my kitchen floor (hardwood under linoleum, vinyl, and carpet)? I couldn't imagine doing work around the house in anything other than t-shirt and jeans. I prefer not to ruin my better clothes if it can be avoided.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Beryana

So you are saying that I should be outside painting my house (or putting up a fence, or working on a car, etc) wearing khakis and a collared shirt?! Oh, how about refinishing my kitchen floor (hardwood under linoleum, vinyl, and carpet)? I couldn't imagine doing work around the house in anything other than t-shirt and jeans. I prefer not to ruin my better clothes if it can be avoided.

No, silly girl, you should be wearing this.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by 33girl

No, silly girl, you should be wearing this.

Or she should just have a man do it.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But none of the things you described are social situations, right?
. . . I think you guys are taking this to absurd deliberately.

Really? He's the one who said: "[A]fter undergrad, it's time to hang [jeans] up unless you're on the farm or something. Other than that, jeans should not be worn by those older than, say, 22. T shirts are the same IMO. They're ok to wear to class while an undergrad, but only to class, and you should still have a collar on your shirt 95% of the time. After college, T shirts are unacceptable (even for running to the store real quick) unless working out." (My emphasis.) He didn't limit his advice to social or professional situations, where he would have had a valid point -- he said that if you're over 22 and not working on a farm, you shouldn't be wearing jeans, and that tee shirts are similarly "unacceptable" unless working out. That = stupid in my book. Where I live, we laugh at people who follow rules like that.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I heart your posts, MC!! You know I click in every time I see your name on a thread, right? (is that technically cyber-stalking? woops )

Aww. No worries. It's not cyber-stalking -- it's Race preparation. Undertstanding how your race partner thinks and all.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Really? He's the one who said: "[A]fter undergrad, it's time to hang [jeans] up unless you're on the farm or something. Other than that, jeans should not be worn by those older than, say, 22. T shirts are the same IMO. They're ok to wear to class while an undergrad, but only to class, and you should still have a collar on your shirt 95% of the time. After college, T shirts are unacceptable (even for running to the store real quick) unless working out." (My emphasis.) He didn't limit his advice to social or professional situations, where he would have had a valid point -- he said that if you're over 22 and not working on a farm, you shouldn't be wearing jeans, and that tee shirts are similarly "unacceptable" unless working out. That = stupid in my book. Where I live, we laugh at people who follow rules like that.

Aww. No worries. It's not cyber-stalking -- it's Race preparation. Undertstanding how your race partner thinks and all.

Well, maybe he'll come back and weigh in, but it seems to my that if you're willing to make exceptions for the farm and the gym, you're probably making exceptions for floor stripping and house painting.

I think the store example is kind of extreme myself, but the idea that T-shirts and jeans are kind of for kids doesn't seem that weird, but again it probably depends a lot on where you live and what kind of event you mean.

ETA: when I jumped in, I was really just trying to warn people off of cargo shorts and T-shirts for rush. I wasn't trying to say that nobody in the south wore jeans ever. When I was in school, fraternity guys wore jeans a lot*, but they probably dressed up a little more than that for going out socially, unless it was to see a band.

*but I doubt the same guys I went to school with still wearing them a lot socially now that they are in their 30s. As a type, they've moved on and don't often get that casual, I'd guess.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Beryana

So you are saying that I should be outside painting my house (or putting up a fence, or working on a car, etc) wearing khakis and a collared shirt?! Oh, how about refinishing my kitchen floor (hardwood under linoleum, vinyl, and carpet)? I couldn't imagine doing work around the house in anything other than t-shirt and jeans. I prefer not to ruin my better clothes if it can be avoided.

But none of the things you described are social situations, right?

And there's no reason that they couldn't be done in old Khakis as easily as old jeans and a t-shirt.

I think you guys are taking this to absurd deliberately.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Agreed. Levis 501's (and similar styles) are the only acceptable jeans, but after undergrad, it's time to hang them up unless you're on the farm or something. Other than that, jeans should not be worn by those older than, say, 22. T shirts are the same IMO. They're ok to wear to class while an undergrad, but only to class, and you should still have a collar on your shirt 95% of the time. After college, T shirts are unacceptable (even for running to the store real quick) unless working out.

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

I obviously don't know if you're fat or drunk, but statements like this make a prima facie case of stupid.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

I obviously don't know if you're fat or drunk, but statements like this make a prima facie case of stupid.

I heart your posts, MC!! You know I click in every time I see your name on a thread, right? (is that technically cyber-stalking? woops )

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Agreed. Levis 501's (and similar styles) are the only acceptable jeans, but after undergrad, it's time to hang them up unless you're on the farm or something. Other than that, jeans should not be worn by those older than, say, 22. T shirts are the same IMO. They're ok to wear to class while an undergrad, but only to class, and you should still have a collar on your shirt 95% of the time. After college, T shirts are unacceptable (even for running to the store real quick) unless working out.

That's why.