FIDEL CASTRO is...

jon1856 · #1 02-19-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

The question now is, how (and if...) this will figure into the election debates this year and what kind of stance the US will take in relations with Cuba...and what kind of government (if there are any changes) under Raul Castro...let's not applaud yet...they are only exchanging Castros.

Agree.
Bush already has made the comment about a Democratic Cuba.

DaemonSeid · #2 02-19-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Agree.
Bush already has made the comment about a Democratic Cuba.

Like a Democratic Iraq?

and we all know how that worked out

jon1856 · #3 02-19-2008, 12:23 PM

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Like a Democratic Iraq?

and we all know how that worked out

I did not believe that he is talking about an armed invasion; even though we have tried to take over Cuba at least 5 times.

However, big business and car collectors are just drooling to get their hands on the country.

Cruise companies already have eyes on ports.

DaemonSeid · #4 02-19-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

I did not believe that he is talking about an armed invasion; even though we have tried to take over Cuba at least 5 times.

However, big business and car collectors are just drooling to get their hands on the country.

Cruise companies already have eyes on ports.

not so much an out and out armed conflict...but who wouldn't try to start a coup?

Lady Pi Phi · #5 02-19-2008, 02:10 PM

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not so much an out and out armed conflict...but who wouldn't try to start a coup?

You'd be surprised how many Cubans to truely like Castro. While they would like to improve their socio-economic situation, they would like to do it gradually and retain their sovereignty. An invasion, whether armed or economic could make things worse for them.

CutiePie2000 · #6 02-20-2008, 02:21 AM

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However, big business ....are just drooling to get their hands on the country. Cruise companies already have eyes on ports.

That's too bad...Cuba will be ruined forever. It's kinda nice to visit a place that doesn't have McDonalds and Booger King. (I've been there twice.)

Lady Pi Phi · #7 02-21-2008, 08:18 AM

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That's too bad...Cuba will be ruined forever. It's kinda nice to visit a place that doesn't have McDonalds and Booger King. (I've been there twice.)

Amen to that! I've been once and I'm planning to go back at the end of this year. It was great experiencing the Cuban culture and it would be a shame to see it so westernized.

UKAXO · #8 02-23-2008, 12:57 PM

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Amen to that! I've been once and I'm planning to go back at the end of this year. It was great experiencing the Cuban culture and it would be a shame to see it so westernized.

I hope you don't mean that you would be happy to see Cuba remain exactly as it is today...?

Where have you been in Cuba, if I may ask? I went on a tour last year which included quite a large part of the island, and we (mainly) stayed with Cuban families. It was heartbreaking to see the daily struggle that so many people endure just to survive.

Lady Pi Phi · #9 02-24-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UKAXO

I hope you don't mean that you would be happy to see Cuba remain exactly as it is today...?

Where have you been in Cuba, if I may ask? I went on a tour last year which included quite a large part of the island, and we (mainly) stayed with Cuban families. It was heartbreaking to see the daily struggle that so many people endure just to survive.

No, not at all. I would like to see Cuba improve their economic situation, but I would like to see them do that while maintaining their sovereignty. I would like to see the US stay our of their affairs.

I was in Holguin.

UKAXO · #10 02-23-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

That's too bad...Cuba will be ruined forever. It's kinda nice to visit a place that doesn't have McDonalds and Booger King. (I've been there twice.)

Yes, let's keep Cuba just as it is, for the benefit of tourists who don't want to rub shoulders with Americans...

I don't think anybody really knows what will happen in Cuba, but I'll tell you this -- I hope things improve on that island for the sake of the people who actually have to live there.

Leslie Anne · #11 02-23-2008, 01:43 PM

While I'm obviously no mind-reader, I don't think either of those comments were made to suggest that they don't want to see the Cuban people have better lives.

They were in response to "Big Business" getting in there and destroying Cuba's rich culture.

jon1856 · #12 02-23-2008, 06:56 PM

After Che Beat Fidel,
A Course Was Lost;
'Sand Trap from Hell'
By JOSÉ DE CÓRDOBA
February 23, 2008; Page A1

Now that Fidel Castro has retired, perhaps he can find the time to work on his golf game.
In 1962, Mr. Castro lost a round of golf to Ernesto "Che" Guevara, who had been a caddy in his Argentine hometown before he became a guerrilla icon. Mr. Castro's defeat may have had disastrous consequences for the sport. He had one Havana golf course turned into a military school, another into an art school. A journalist who wrote about the defeat of Cuba's Maximum Leader, who was a notoriously bad loser, was fired the next day.........
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1203...we_banner_left