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02-13-2008, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
Oh that was an Abe Lincoln quote?
OK.
I agree that you didn't do a great job of sparking discussion with this. Did you just want to acknowledge change or something?
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Yes.
Sparking a discussion was not my intent.
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02-13-2008, 08:10 PM
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Sparking a discussion was not my intent.
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Threads started without the intent of starting a discussion are the worst kinds of threads. 
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02-13-2008, 08:13 PM
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Threads started without the intent of starting a discussion are the worst kinds of threads. |
Just enjoying my First Amendment right too...
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02-13-2008, 08:19 PM
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Just enjoying my First Amendment right too...
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Uh...yeah.....
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02-13-2008, 10:09 PM
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Uh...yeah.....
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Hey, lay off killer - he's just exercising his God-given right to post on a private message board without fear of government restrictions!
AKA "Wat" (NSFW)
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02-13-2008, 10:11 PM
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I am sorry that I clicked on that link.
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02-13-2008, 10:15 PM
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I am sorry that I clicked on that link.
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ditto...
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02-14-2008, 12:56 PM
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Did Lincoln really represent slave-owners at one point? I came across this in a law review article, but seeing as I regularly throw away the footnotes pages because I'm a terrible student, I couldn't verify it.
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02-14-2008, 01:05 PM
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Did Lincoln really represent slave-owners at one point? I came across this in a law review article, but seeing as I regularly throw away the footnotes pages because I'm a terrible student, I couldn't verify it.
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Well, he married into a family of Kentucky slave owners...
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02-14-2008, 01:10 PM
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In light of some of the 'confusion'
Here is a more comprehensive quote from Lincoln showing how he felt about Blacks and their having right to vote:
I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race
Lincoln in 1858 debate
http://www.bartleby.com/251/41.html
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02-14-2008, 01:17 PM
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Was there confusion?
The larger context is that the establishment and continuation of slavery has an economic basis and so does the abolishment of slavery. Slavery wasn't really abolished on a moral or religious basis of "it is unhumane/unChristian to treat nonwhites this way" just as slavery didn't begin because slave sellers and owners had nothing better to do than hate and target nonwhites.
This context serves as the context for denying blacks the right to vote and other exclusionary tactics that exist in de facto and covert forms today.
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02-14-2008, 01:21 PM
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Was there confusion?
The larger context is that the establishment and continuation of slavery has an economic basis and so does the abolishment of slavery. Slavery wasn't really abolished on a moral or religious basis of "it is unhumane/unChristian to treat nonwhites this way" just as slavery didn't begin because slave sellers and owners had nothing better to do than hate and target nonwhites.
This context serves as the context for denying blacks the right to vote and other exclusionary tactics that exist in more de facto and covert forms today.
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Trying to clear the confusion of whether or not I was celebrating Lincoln vs showing how he felt about Black voting rights then vs the event of what happened 2 days ago.
I actually wished I had that quote to use in the OP.
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