Why Obama Should Not Be the Next President of USA

[AKA_Monet]

I thought the OP was taking about Nato Jenkins...

[southernfrat]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Obviously didn't bother to read the original post.

The original post is funny but PhiGam just happens to make a point that most of ya'll would probably not know. For any of you that are voting for this joke of a candidate please tell me some of his policies (well since this is on the internet i'm sure you will just go to his website and grab whatever he claims as his policy off of there). Most of his supporters are taken by his ability to speak and his idea of "change". If you want to know why not to vote for Obama his voting record will explain everything.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by southernfrat

For any of you that are voting for this joke of a candidate please tell me some of his policies (well since this is on the internet i'm sure you will just go to his website and grab whatever he claims as his policy off of there).

Why don't you go to the website, cut and paste for everyone to see and save others the trouble....?

[Drolefille]

Without looking at the website:
-Fixing NCLB and rewarding teachers on a merit-based system.
-Ending the war in Iraq.
-Focus on the war in Afghanistan and on finishing it.
-No censorship on cable but an call for advertisements to be shown appropriately and for parents to take responsibility.
-Keep religion out of policies and laws.
-Repeal Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy and lower taxes for the middle class.
-Have an optional health care plan available for everyone that equals the congressional health plan and for those who wish to keep private insurance, lower premiums and costs. (Note: Children would be required to have insurance either private or public, adults would not.)
-Refocus the health care system on prevention, not treatment.
-Increased grants, scholarships, loans for college students with the requirement of some sort of public service in return.
-Stop torturing prisoners.
-Reduce our dependence on foreign oil and reduce emissions.
-Take the money we're spending in Iraq and invest in the infrastructure of our country.
-Consider how to address Social Security by raising the cap on the amount paid in for those with an income over $200,000 (proposed only)

-Work rationally to accomplish these things. This means working with Republicans not alienating them. It may mean sacrificing a "perfect" solution to get to one that will pass.

[shinerbock]

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Without looking at the website:
-Fixing NCLB and rewarding teachers on a merit-based system.
-Ending the war in Iraq.
-Focus on the war in Afghanistan and on finishing it.
-No censorship on cable but an call for advertisements to be shown appropriately and for parents to take responsibility.
-Keep religion out of policies and laws.
-Repeal Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy and lower taxes for the middle class.
-Have an optional health care plan available for everyone that equals the congressional health plan and for those who wish to keep private insurance, lower premiums and costs. (Note: Children would be required to have insurance either private or public, adults would not.)
-Refocus the health care system on prevention, not treatment.
-Increased grants, scholarships, loans for college students with the requirement of some sort of public service in return.
-Stop torturing prisoners.
-Reduce our dependence on foreign oil and reduce emissions.
-Take the money we're spending in Iraq and invest in the infrastructure of our country.
-Consider how to address Social Security by raising the cap on the amount paid in for those with an income over $200,000 (proposed only)

-Work rationally to accomplish these things. This means working with Republicans not alienating them. It may mean sacrificing a "perfect" solution to get to one that will pass.

So like was posited earlier . . . liberal spending?

Doesn't every one of these things cost additional money that does not currently exist in the budget? We were over budget before Iraq, so that simply cannot be the source of the money - plus, it will still cost money to pull out (insert abortion joke here?) . . . that was the original crack.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Without looking at the website:
-Fixing NCLB and rewarding teachers on a merit-based system.
-Ending the war in Iraq.
-Focus on the war in Afghanistan and on finishing it.
-No censorship on cable but an call for advertisements to be shown appropriately and for parents to take responsibility.
-Keep religion out of policies and laws.
-Repeal Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy and lower taxes for the middle class.
-Have an optional health care plan available for everyone that equals the congressional health plan and for those who wish to keep private insurance, lower premiums and costs. (Note: Children would be required to have insurance either private or public, adults would not.)
-Refocus the health care system on prevention, not treatment.
-Increased grants, scholarships, loans for college students with the requirement of some sort of public service in return.
-Stop torturing prisoners.
-Reduce our dependence on foreign oil and reduce emissions.
-Take the money we're spending in Iraq and invest in the infrastructure of our country.
-Consider how to address Social Security by raising the cap on the amount paid in for those with an income over $200,000 (proposed only)

-Work rationally to accomplish these things. This means working with Republicans not alienating them. It may mean sacrificing a "perfect" solution to get to one that will pass.

You did better than many Obama supporters can do. I might print this out and put it in my "who will I vote for" folder.

[skylark]

PhiGam (sigh)... your post is almost as funny as moe.ron's.

[Senusret I]

I think the pun was that his two children ARE black...

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I think the pun was that his two children ARE black...

Indeed.
Come on Daemonseid, keep up
And of course there's the question if Chelsea Clinton's a "black child" since her father wasn't a "black" president until after she was born. I don't think there's any precedent for that sort of determination.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Indeed.
Come on Daemonseid, keep up
And of course there's the question if Chelsea Clinton's a "black child" since her father wasn't a "black" president until after she was born. I don't think there's any precedent for that sort of determination.

I was being sarcastic, you 2.....LOL

[skylark]

^^ I never said that some don't. I think that the same could be said for any candidate. I just think that the stereotype is fairly inaccurate and there are both specific examples out there and statistics that back it up. I think that there is a huge media push to make people think that Obama support is hallow (and thus dissuade people from supporting him by making them think that they'd be in bad company)... but I have yet to see anything but spin to support that myth.

[shinerbock]

I think the stereotype is likely fairly accurate. Whenever you're the trendy candidate that is popular with the college crowd, you're always going to have a substantial amount of minimum-depth support.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I think the stereotype is likely fairly accurate. Whenever you're the trendy candidate that is popular with the college crowd, you're always going to have a substantial amount of minimum-depth support.

Your perspective on college-educated voters is interesting. I guess if I were the candidate I'd rather have the Starbucks vote over the Walmart vote.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by skylark

Your perspective on college-educated voters is interesting. I guess if I were the candidate I'd rather have the Starbucks vote over the Walmart vote.

You might, simply because the Starbucks crowd may be more likely to actually show up at the polls.

However, there's no guarantee that the Starbucks crowd actually knows substantially more about your policies, not at all.

Besides this, the "educated" vote is a misnomer, because there are many in college or with college degrees who I find to be functionally retarded. It's no guarantee of responsibility on the part of the voter, blah blah chow meow. Basically you're making the same assumption you're pointing out in others, just in reverse.