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Old 02-13-2008, 03:22 AM
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^^Yeah maybe about the beer and cigs, but the difference is if she did/does/will drink that will be a decision that she is making saying, "Hey I want a beer," rather than "oh a free brownie then now I am in the ER."
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:09 PM
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^^Yeah maybe about the beer and cigs, but the difference is if she did/does/will drink that will be a decision that she is making saying, "Hey I want a beer," rather than "oh a free brownie then now I am in the ER."
How does one go to the ER after ingesting marijuana?

It's virtually impossible to OD on the stuff.

The beer is much more likely to land one in the emergency room.

I guess the cigarettes could burn you...

Is it dangerous? Probably not.

Is it stupid to drug your guests? Extremely.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:05 AM
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I believe that if I were experiencing symptoms of being high without knowingly engaging in any illegal substances, I sure as heck would go to ER. It's not as though you're knowingly doing a drug and then going to ER because you're high. In fact, when I was painting my son's room with Killz once, I started to get really dizzy. I'd been having some other medical problems and was contemplating going to ER. I thought maybe I was just overdoing it and sat on the front porch for a bit to rest. I started to feel fine. I went back in and got up on the ladder to do the high part where the wall and ceiling meet and started getting dizzy again. That's when it clicked that I was getting high from the fumes of the Killz. But, had I not known I had been exposed to anything, I would be very scared.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:47 PM
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How does one go to the ER after ingesting marijuana?

It's virtually impossible to OD on the stuff.

The beer is much more likely to land one in the emergency room.

I guess the cigarettes could burn you...

Is it dangerous? Probably not.

Is it stupid to drug your guests? Extremely.
My point (bolded). I'm not saying she OD'd, but I can not blame her for going to the hospital when she is feeling 'strange' after eating.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:32 PM
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How does one go to the ER after ingesting marijuana?

It's virtually impossible to OD on the stuff.

The beer is much more likely to land one in the emergency room.

I guess the cigarettes could burn you...

Is it dangerous? Probably not.

Is it stupid to drug your guests? Extremely.
Some of us have never used marijuana or other illegal substances so wouldn't know how we're "supposed" to feel when illegal substances are ingested. (I've never smoked cigarettes, either, but that would be a choice of a legal substance versus someone forcing it on me )

Soooooo if someone was to give me a brownie and I started feeling wierd, I wouldn't be like "oh...it must've been laced with something...yay, I'm officially a weed head."

I'd be wondering why I feel so wierd and going to the ER or someplace to get checked out. That's extremely dangerous because you don't know how her body responded to the substance. Plus, what if she was about to operate a motor vehicle or do something where she had to be drug tested?

Accident or not, those idiots need to be reprimanded because it's both stupid and dangerous. It's "virtually impossible" to OD but it isn't impossible, especially since marijuana is sometimes laced with other crap.
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:41 PM
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Some of us have never used marijuana or other illegal substances so wouldn't know how we're "supposed" to feel when illegal substances are ingested. (I've never smoked cigarettes, either, but that would be a choice of a legal substance versus someone forcing it on me )

Soooooo if someone was to give me a brownie and I started feeling wierd, I wouldn't be like "oh...it must've been laced with something...yay, I'm officially a weed head."

I'd be wondering why I feel so wierd and going to the ER or someplace to get checked out. That's extremely dangerous because you don't know how her body responded to the substance. Plus, what if she was about to operate a motor vehicle or do something where she had to be drug tested?

Accident or not, those idiots need to be reprimanded because it's both stupid and dangerous. It's "virtually impossible" to OD but it isn't impossible, especially since marijuana is sometimes laced with other crap.
I live in a city where pot of practically legal. I've never seen anyone "lace" good herb with anything. There's no point in doing that.

The act was stupid and I understand completely how one could freak out having never felt that way before.......but ingesting a weed brownie is not "extremely dangerous". It's actually better for you than just straight smoking it.

....and it really is pretty much impossible to OD on marijuana. I was reading a study that was done at UCLA and I believe they stated that you would have to smoke something like 27,000 joints in a certain time frame to kill yourself ( like 2-4 hours).
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:54 PM
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I live in a city where pot of practically legal. I've never seen anyone "lace" good herb with anything.
No such thing. It's illegal.

People lace marijuana sometimes. You don't have to "see" it for it to happen across the country. (Unless you are the resident weed expert who is in charge of the preparation and distribution of weed across the country)

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The act was stupid and I understand completely how one could freak out having never felt that way before.......but ingesting a weed brownie is not "extremely dangerous". It's actually better for you than just straight smoking it.
Unknowingly and unwillingly ingesting drugs is as "extremely dangerous" as the person who unknowingly and unwillingly ingested it feels that it is.
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Old 02-16-2008, 05:23 PM
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No such thing. It's illegal.

People lace marijuana sometimes. You don't have to "see" it for it to happen across the country. (Unless you are the resident weed expert who is in charge of the preparation and distribution of weed across the country)
Really? No such thing? So the 20 some odd states that have decriminalized marijuana laws.......is that like......a made up joke or something?

.....and since you live in Austin and everything, please tell me more about what I don't know about this city. You are more likely to get a ticket for J walking than you are for having some pot on you here. Sure, it is "illegal", I guess. It's also the lowest priority among law enforcement procedure and has recently been put on a list of things that an officer can choose himself whether or not to cite. If you have less than an ounce on you, they are basically instructed to write you a misdemeanor ticket and let you go. A speeding ticket is more expensive.

I'm not saying that it absolutely doesn't happen.....but it isn't common whatsoever. What is it laced with, when it is? You seem to know. Usually, lacing marijuana means you mix it with tobacco.

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Old 02-16-2008, 05:50 PM
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Well, alrighty then....


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Really? No such thing? So the 20 some odd states that have decriminalized marijuana laws.......is that like......a made up joke or something?
No such thing as "practically legal." If it is illegal in your state, except for medicinal use, then it is still illegal unless it is possessed (and used) as the law permits.

So are you saying that marijuana has been decriminalized in your state, beyond legal medical use? ORLY? Of course not.......

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.....and since you live in Austin and everything, please tell me more about what I don't know about this city. You are more likely to get a ticket for J walking than you are for having some pot on you here.
That doesn't make it "practically legal."

Whether you get a ticket for marijuana possession at the cop's discretion because they don't want to overcrowd jails(http://blog.austindefense.com/articl...led-substance/) or are arrested for it, it is still illegal. Jails in almost every city in this country are overcrowded because of low level drug offenders--that includes those 20 states that you claim have decriminalized marijuana.

Plus there are still cops on the beat for marijuana possession (including cops who have gotten killed during marijuana busts in Austin).

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What is it laced with, when it is? You seem to know. Usually, lacing marijuana means you mix it with tobacco.

Marijuana can and has been laced with tobacco, crack, powdered cocaine, embalming fluid, and other substances. This is why there are different slang terms for marijuana joints. Laced marijuana has been purchased by people who want that extra high, confiscated by narcotics divisions, and distributed at parties where people have gotten sick because of it.


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Old 02-16-2008, 04:57 PM
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Miller ate one of the brownies and several hours later she began hallucinating while she was studying at the library. ... After experiencing tremors and seizure-like symptoms ... I've never felt like that in my life. I felt like I was dying."
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but ingesting a weed brownie is not "extremely dangerous".
But you're interpreting "dangerous" strictly in "could kill you personally" terms (and her reactions do still sound pretty severe, in any case). What if she ate the brownie then got behind the wheel? What if she ate the brownie then went off to her nanny job where she was responsible for young children? What if she ate the brownie then went off to her part-time job where she works in a kitchen with hot surfaces and sharp objects? There is still plenty of "danger" in this scenario. And by the way...
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... two other students were also hospitalized after eating the brownies.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:32 AM
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How does one go to the ER after ingesting marijuana?

It's virtually impossible to OD on the stuff.

The beer is much more likely to land one in the emergency room.

I guess the cigarettes could burn you...

Is it dangerous? Probably not.

Is it stupid to drug your guests? Extremely.
Kevin;
This happened in my chapter many years ago:
We were having a house cleaning party and someone brought down some fresh brownies. I thought, given who it was, that it was a bit odd and strange. Thus I did not take any.
A few Brothers did and one ended up in the ER getting his stomach pumped out. Why??? Turns out that he was allergic to the "magic brownies".

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