Barack Obama, Grammy Winner

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I'm not running for elected office at all, much less POTUS. Also, I'm half his age. If you were subtly trying to imply that Barack Obama is more accomplished then me, it would be difficult to argue with that. This doesn't mean he's qualified to be President, unless I've become the standard. Note, I'm not even saying he's not qualified, but I think the debate is pretty ripe.

Translation: Shinerbock has no accomplishments other than being a complete douchbag in this thread.

Whether or not you support a presidential candidate does not reduce the person's educational, service, and political accomplishments. I'm not an Obama fan, and find it humorous that he has a spoken word album, but he is highly accomplished and would not be a successful candidate if he was not.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Translation: Shinerbock has no accomplishments other than being a complete douchbag in this thread.

Whether or not you support a presidential candidate does not reduce the person's educational, service, and political accomplishments. I'm not an Obama fan, and find it humorous that he has a spoken word album, but he is highly accomplished and would not be a successful candidate if he was not.

Your toolishness never ceases to amaze. I was making a rather well timed quip (considering this is a very popular topic, apparently not on your radar), and people got all fussy.

Barack has done little in his legislative career. He's accomplished very, very little as a politician. As far as political accomplishments, which is often the measuring stick by which candidates are analyzed, Obama comes up short. I'm sorry for pointing this out, despite it being brought up on just about every program which has ever made any reference to the 2008 election.

I'm not sure where this bitterness comes from, I suspect its because even most Barack Obama supporters will acknowledge his campaign is light on substance and heavy on vague and lofty ideals.

Also, to the people who think I can't analyze Barack's accomplishments because I've accomplished less, that is the dumbest sentiment I've ever come across. Of course, since most of these people can't rationalize why they're supporting Obama beyond "He's really optimistic," I'm not overly surprised.

And you folks call conservatives uptight, sheesh.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

people got all fussy.

And you folks call conservatives uptight, sheesh.

Not "fussy." Just telling your our opinion of your poorly expressed opinion. Maybe you will learn to express yourself more effectively so you won't have to type long ass posts explaining your previous "quip attempts." Or maybe you can post your feelings of Obama's lack of political accomplishments in one of the many threads where that would be on topic. Make it happen.

I don't call conservatives uptight and I'm also not a liberal.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Not "fussy." Just telling your our opinion of your poorly expressed opinion. Maybe you will learn to express yourself more effectively so you won't have to type long ass posts explaining your previous "quip attempts." Or maybe you can post your feelings of Obama's lack of political accomplishments in one of the many threads where that would be on topic. Make it happen.

I don't call conservatives uptight and I'm also not a liberal.

You're right. I posted under the false assumption that people were actually closely following this election. Considering this is an extremely popular topic, I figured people would be able to ascertain what I was getting at. The very situation I mentioned has been the subject of much discussion, but assuming folks on here would know that was likely an oversight on my part.

I'll post where I feel like it, I think. Thanks for your concern. If sarcastically mentioning winning a Grammy as one of Barack Obama's accomplishments in a "Barack Obama, Grammy winner" thread is too off topic, I'm sure the moderators will remove it. I certainly won't be offended if they do.

I don't recall calling you a liberal. I do seem to recall me and you arguing over the conservative content of some of my posts, however. Thus, while I didn't assert (that I recall) that you were a liberal, I still harbor the assumption that you're left-leaning. We'll see if it causes confusion in the future.

Edit: Also, did you mean the expression of my opinion, or simply my post in general? I didn't really give my impression of Barack Obama's accomplishments. In fact, I was fairly open minded when responding to the list of "accomplishments" presented by another poster. I think I actually mentioned somewhere that I wasn't asserting that he was unqualified. Granted, we all know I'm not voting for Obama, but that has nothing to do with whether he is qualified or not.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

You're right.

Let's not overstate the obvious.

Any more thoughts on Obama's nonpolitical accomplishment of becoming a Grammy winner? No? Then take your political thoughts to a political thread so you can place "accomplishments" within the context that you intend them to be taken.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Let's not overstate the obvious.

Any more thoughts on Obama's nonpolitical accomplishment of becoming a Grammy winner? No? Then take your political thoughts to a political thread so you can place "accomplishments" within the context that you intend them to be taken.

yikes....

[skylark]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I keep coming back to this post because I love these kids. I feel a little compelled to try to make out what the little kid is saying, though. Is he saying "that's so funny," you think?

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Let's not overstate the obvious.

Any more thoughts on Obama's nonpolitical accomplishment of becoming a Grammy winner? No? Then take your political thoughts to a political thread so you can place "accomplishments" within the context that you intend them to be taken.

Or I'll take (or leave) them where I choose. If you're opposed to discourse, you can feel free to petition the moderators that my posts be deleted. Given your inability to discuss on a civil or substantive level, that would likely be your best option.

Thanks!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Or I'll take (or leave) them where I choose. If you're opposed to discourse, you can feel free to petition the moderators that my posts be deleted. Given your inability to discuss on a civil or substantive level, that would likely be your best option.

Thanks!

IRON-KNEE ALERT!!!!

No need for deleted posts. Just don't accuse people of getting "fussy" when you pull posts out of your ass. Okay? Thanks.