Politics 2008:The Caucuses and The Dem/Rep Conventions

[Honeykiss1974]

McCain seals GOP nod as Romney suspends
By LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - John McCain effectively sealed the Republican presidential nomination on Thursday as chief rival Mitt Romney suspended his faltering presidential campaign. "I must now stand aside, for our party and our country," Romney prepared to tell conservatives.

http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/304270.html

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This is just my opinion but I do think with him leaving, that McCain is the most likely Republican candidate. So IMO, I think if the Democrats want a presidential victory, Hillary Clinton can not be the Democratic candidate.

This race is getting more interesting by the moment.

[TonyB06]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

This is just my opinion but I do think with him leaving, that McCain is the most likely Republican candidate. So IMO, I think if the Democrats want a presidential victory, Hillary Clinton can not be the Democratic candidate.

...just curious, what are you basing your opinion on?

[WenD08]

i have a friend/political buddy who feels the same way. she really believes that since HC is such a polarizing figure, she cannot be the Dem nominee. HC will drive away Independents, Dems, Repubs, etc.
i read a poll that stated that Dems will vote for whoever the nominee is. i believe that many are that pragmatic enough to go with the last person standing.

[TonyB06]

Originally Posted by WenD08

i have a friend/political buddy who feels the same way. she really believes that since HC is such a polarizing figure, she cannot be the Dem nominee. HC will drive away Independents, Dems, Repubs, etc.
i read a poll that stated that Dems will vote for whoever the nominee is. i believe that many are that pragmatic enough to go with the last person standing.

So who do you side with, your friend/political buddy or the poll which says pragmatism will carry the day?

...correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't HRC wins all been in closed primary states thus far?

both HRC and Obama, as does McCain, have vulnurabilities, but the 3-to-1 Democratic turnout in their primaries vs. the Republicans gives the Ds a bit more margin to figure this thing out, IMO.

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

both HRC and Obama, as does McCain, have vulnurabilities, but the 3-to-1 Democratic turnout in their primaries vs. the Republicans gives the Ds a bit more margin to figure this thing out, IMO.

And, don't forget that very conservative Republicans don't like McCain.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

McCain seals GOP nod as Romney suspends
By LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - John McCain effectively sealed the Republican presidential nomination on Thursday as chief rival Mitt Romney suspended his faltering presidential campaign. "I must now stand aside, for our party and our country," Romney prepared to tell conservatives.

http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/304270.html

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This is just my opinion but I do think with him leaving, that McCain is the most likely Republican candidate. So IMO, I think if the Democrats want a presidential victory, Hillary Clinton can not be the Democratic candidate.

This race is getting more interesting by the moment.

Frankly, I think the party told Romney to drop out. Super Tuesday was wayyyy to divided. Many of the winners could not be announced until over 95% of the votes were cast, much later than most Democratic contests. The Republican party needs to declare a 'conservative' and a 'centrist'. Besides, Huckabee proved very strong in the South so he wasn't going anywhere!

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

So who do you side with, your friend/political buddy or the poll which says pragmatism will carry the day?

...correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't HRC wins all been in closed primary states thus far?

And Obama has won in both closed AND open primaries AND caucuses AND in all parts of the country. Based on contests up through SuperTuesday, Obama clearly has the wider appeal in the Democratic party as well as among Independents and Liberal Republicans.
He does need to work on older folks and white women. Ted and Oprah need to step up their games...

[WenD08]

i'm with the poll. my take is that from now until November 4th, things will not get better (the housing market, the economy, the war, etc). as a result, the Repub nominee, let's assume McCain, will be seen as someone who will continue w/the bush program. voters, i feel, will then vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever that person is.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by WenD08

i have a friend/political buddy who feels the same way. she really believes that since HC is such a polarizing figure, she cannot be the Dem nominee. HC will drive away Independents, Dems, Repubs, etc.
i read a poll that stated that Dems will vote for whoever the nominee is. i believe that many are that pragmatic enough to go with the last person standing.

Yeah, what she said. Many Republicans, even those that are not apart of the "conservative right" just do not get warm fuzzies with HRC. Honestly I'm sure some of that probably is leftover feelings from her husband's presidency too. I'm not saying that she can't be the Dem nominee but I do believe that if she is, she will not have the ability to cause more moderate Repubs to "crossover" I really believe you will have people vote for the Republican candidate (even if it wasn't McCain) because they just don't want to vote for her - another Clinton.

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

And Obama has won in both closed AND open primaries AND caucuses AND in all parts of the country. Based on contests up through SuperTuesday, Obama clearly has the wider appeal in the Democratic party as well as among Independents and Liberal Republicans.
He does need to work on older folks and white women. Ted and Oprah need to step up their games...

Also, Obama has the capital to stay in the race as long as needed. I saw a report (I think on CNN) that he raised $7 million since just last week. CNN reported that Clinton had to use $5 million of her own money.

I agree with the above statement that the party told Romney to quit. I was surprised that he dropped out. I think he was hoping to do better on Super Tuesday, but the split vote still gave him hope. Just look what it did for Hucklebee. Everyone told him drop out, but he did well on Tuesday.

[WenD08]

i think Romney or Mrs. Romney said to quit. since his campaign was self-financed, i think he/she saw the bank balance and said it was time to move on. note to Romney: next time, don't declare that you will finance your run. unless, he all the sudden turns into Michael Bloomberg or Gov. Corzine-Governor, NJ (both are quite wealthy)
as for rush and and ann coulter saying they won't support McCain in his run. i'm not so sure now. this could be some sort of trick to throw Dems off...i just don't trust those repubs. they'll do/say whatever to ensure their hold on the White House.

[mccoyred]

Obama swept the Democratic voting today. He won the Lousianna primary and the Washington, Nebraska and USVI caucuses. There are two phenomenon that I find very interesting:

1) Obama has won EVERY SINGLE caucus state by a hefty margin.
2) Hillary still enjoys stronger support among whites, Baby Boomers and poorer/blue collar voters.

[Wonderful1908]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

Obama swept the Democratic voting today. He won the Lousianna primary and the Washington, Nebraska and USVI caucuses. There are two phenomenon that I find very interesting:

1) Obama has won EVERY SINGLE caucus state by a hefty margin.
2) Hillary still enjoys stronger support among whites, Baby Boomers and poorer/blue collar voters.

I am really mesmerized by this whole process its truly amazing!

[AKA2D '91]

Trouble inside the Clinton camp?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080210/...mpaign_manager

Campaign manager has been replaced.

[Ten/Four]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

Trouble inside the Clinton camp?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080210/...mpaign_manager

Campaign manager has been replaced.

This is usually a bad sign.

Next up is Maryland, Virginia, and DC. I can't wait.