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01-31-2008, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ladygreek
You do tend to back pedal. Earlier you said you had no prejudices.
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Or perhaps I made the statement I have no prejudices to get my point across that I was not racially prejudice but then realized that the statement was far more general than having to do with just race. Not back-pedaling, clarifying.
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01-31-2008, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SECdomination
If it helps, I knew what you were trying to say.
I think I'll feed the fire now.
By what everyone has been defining racism as, I am a racist:
I don't want most minorities in my chapter. Not because I think any less of other races, but because there are deep-rooted differences, and I joined a fraternity to find brothers I had things in common with. A lot in common.
I would never discriminate (and have not) in the workplace, in the classroom, or any other organization. I know I'm going to get reamed for this but understand- I honest to God am no sort of white supremecist. I just know that there are fundamental differences among races, and because there are plenty of other places to mix, I don't think my fraternity should be thought of as racist.
DSTChaos- we live in a "segregated" society because EVERYONE recognizes these differences.
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I think what I have a bigger problem with is your missue of the term/construct of race. At least you're open with your biases and discrimation so people know what they're dealing with, and frankly I respect that a hell of a lot more than a closet bigot. A lot of what I believe you're referring to as "differences among races" are social constructs and have nothing to do with skin color, eye and nose shape, or even how one spells their last name. People grow up in all kinds of families and economic structures, and I know plenty of people who are not checking the white/caucasian box, but are interested in some activities you have mentioned. Race isn't defined by genetics or physical characteristics.
Of course I live in a completely different part of the country, but we have our history of hatred to the point in recent history a nearby city completely shut down operation to protest a KKK parade.
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01-31-2008, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SECdomination
I'm on the same page as you with the bold. Maybe not 100% with the social contructs, but for the most part, I think I agree. That's why I hate how the word racism is used now, because quite frankly, skin color means nothing to me- the cultures (I guess that's the right word) that color represents is where I have different opinions.
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So in other words, what you're saying is you would have more in common (and probably bid) a black man who was raised in your town and whose parents were of the same social strata as yours before you'd bid some white guy from Pittsburgh.
I understand that - I think what people get upset about is what seems to be an assumption that there aren't any situations like that.
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01-31-2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
So in other words, what you're saying is you would have more in common (and probably bid) a black man who was raised in your town and whose parents were of the same social strata as yours before you'd bid some white guy from Pittsburgh.
I understand that - I think what people get upset about is what seems to be an assumption that there aren't any situations like that.
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Yeah because he just tried to justify why this is still an extremely racially segregated society.
MEANING, blacks and whites from similar socioeconomic backgrounds remain segregated from one another versus being more integrated based on social class and similar experiences. And that's the reality.
I swear, I was trying to just bring back the "rush mistakes" but the uninformed posts keepacoming. There aren't FUNDAMENTAL differences across races.
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01-31-2008, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SECdomination
I'm on the same page as you with the bold. Maybe not 100% with the social contructs, but for the most part, I think I agree. That's why I hate how the word racism is used now, because quite frankly, skin color means nothing to me- the cultures (I guess that's the right word) that color represents is where I have different opinions.
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If you believe "race" is culture (which it is, along with other social and economic factors that impact some groups more than others) then you agree 100% with the social construct definition of race.
"Race" is not biological. Period. And 99% of the differences that people observe across racial groups aren't biological or inherent.
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01-31-2008, 12:04 PM
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DSTChaos- we live in a "segregated" society because EVERYONE recognizes these differences.
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That's actually NOT why.
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