Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

It only makes sense that a lot of those groups would be made along racial lines.

That only makes sense because this is still an extremely racially segregated society.

[nate2512]

The thing is, which is why I originally said that I think discriminatory laws in GLOs are pointless is because a black person may not fit in with my organization, thats not saying we would not take a black person, because it could happen, but very few rush here so thats doubtful, but if he does not fit in he gets cut. So he files a lawsuit against my chapter saying we racially discriminated against him. He has no case, because we tell the truth that he was released not for his race, but for the simple fact that we do not feel he fits in with our organizations and what we embody. We probably cut a vast exponentially larger number of white people to for the same thing. I know a white person on our campus that inquired about membership to a traditionally black organization and they told him they would not take him. Him and his black friend that he wanted to pledge with then inquired about our organizations, and we welcomed them both to rush us and discussed it and decided that we would bid them both but with their athletic schedule they decided not to.
Moral of the story, I am not a racist person, neither are any of the brothers in my chapter. And I am standing by my claim that discrimination laws in GLOs are pointless.

And now I stand by for someone to ridicule some part of post because its sure to happen.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nate2512

The thing is, which is why I originally said that I think discriminatory laws in GLOs are pointless is because a black person may not fit in with my organization, thats not saying we would not take a black person, because it could happen, but very few rush here so thats doubtful, but if he does not fit in he gets cut. So he files a lawsuit against my chapter saying we racially discriminated against him. He has no case, because we tell the truth that he was released not for his race, but for the simple fact that we do not feel he fits in with our organizations and what we embody. We probably cut a vast exponentially larger number of white people to for the same thing. I know a white person on our campus that inquired about membership to a traditionally black organization and they told him they would not take him. Him and his black friend that he wanted to pledge with then inquired about our organizations, and we welcomed them both to rush us and discussed it and decided that we would bid them both but with their athletic schedule they decided not to.
Moral of the story, I am not a racist person, neither are any of the brothers in my chapter. And I am standing by my claim that discrimination laws in GLOs are pointless.

And now I stand by for someone to ridicule some part of post because its sure to happen.

So the Obama supporter discussion was a perfect transition for you to discuss how you feel about race? That's what I told you the first time around. Did I miss where race (and BGLOs) was the topic of discussion before you started discussing Obama supporters?

[OLD_GOLD3]

My definition

When I was in high school and undergrad race was defined loosely as broader grouping of one’s ethnic background. Now I personally do not agree with the statement that there are fundamental differences between races socially. There may be slight cultural differences but that seems like an entirely different argument. If all applicants being what could be broadly defined as “American”, in the grand schemes of things there (in my opinion) are no differences. Social/economic differences amongst applicants is another story entirely, I would be naïve to assume that Fraternities do not discriminate socially, culturally or even racially.

But to stay on subject I believe the idea that people of different races can not get coexist in a Fraternity due to racial differences is absurd. Maybe socially yes but those all seem to personal “hang ups” one may choose not to associate with another person based on these principles. But I ultimately have a problem with the idea or defense of, with out calling it for what it is. Now if the term race was used to describe social difference or cultural differences, you can see how that can easily be misinterpreted. In defense of statement of that members of NPHC are equally just as exclusive as some of the other organizations mentioned are fundamentally unfounded. I can only speak for my organization and my experiences, but I have met many diverse chapters in my Fraternity and brothers equally as welcoming.

I can not speak for every brother and every chapter so I will not be that presumptuous, but in my experiences in my organization most are quite welcoming of diversity especially in the state I currently reside. Having attended two undergraduate universities in the south (maybe not the deep south) I have not seen racial exclusionary practices in most of the “orgs” I came across whether they were NPC, NPHC or NIC

“The Phinest men are made in Cambria”

[Tom Earp]

Recruitment as some said is to find like members.

Is that in mind, color or relegion?

There may be some that while not white only clauses still think that and that is ignorance not knowledge about people!

Some will be sure to argue that whites are racist, since when were blacks, Asians, or Latinos not the same?

In recruitment, he or shes find a PERSON who will help them grow and round out the group and learn from them as individuals, or should!