Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Hmmmm, quite a few. Some even post here. Don't try to justify your own prejudices by using us.

And nonblacks who actually apply for membership (it doesn't happen in droves because of what BGLOs' larger aims are but it happens more at some campuses) tend not to be denied just because of their race or because of political/social views that have nothing to do with the sorority ideals.

Getting along with and relating to people in the chapter doesn't mean that there has to be a cookie cutter look or way of looking at the social world. As long as the person is not saying or doing things to undermine the organization, the rest is just an attempt at reinforcing an outdated status quo.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And nonblacks who actually apply for membership (it doesn't happen in droves because of what BGLOs' larger aims are but it happens more at some campuses) tend not to be denied just because of their race or because of political/social views that have nothing to do with the sorority ideals.

So how is that not a double standard? You are saying that sometimes people are denied because of those reasons. Also, those are sororities and I have two black friends that were denied from black fraternities for being "sellouts." That is FAR worse in my opinion than KA denying someone for being a liberal, those black fraternities are missing out on upstanding young men just because their father's are successful and gave them a great education growing up.

Getting along with and relating to people in the chapter doesn't mean that there has to be a cookie cutter look or way of looking at the social world. As long as the person is not saying or doing things to undermine the organization, the rest is just an attempt at reinforcing an outdated status quo.

You are certainly free to run your organization in whatever way you see fit. I've never understood why people have a problem with a way an organization that they are not a part of is run internally. Perhaps its my southern upbringing that taught me to mind my own business and let others worry about theirs.

[DSTCHAOS]

So now you want to type about it HERE?

Stuff happens. There's a huge difference between stuff happening and fraternity and sorority infrastructures actually endorsing stuff happening. Chapters can get in a lot of trouble if they are found to have denied membership based on race or racial stereotypes. Versus what some of you seemed to be saying about your chapters that proudly (probably to the knowledge of chapter, regional and even national officials) uphold the status quo.

But, again, this is always a nontopic until people make it one for BGLOs. Despite our nondiscriminatory national statements, nonblacks do not pursue BGLOs in large numbers for a number of social and organizational reasons. The chapters that do get nonblack applicants are usually getting them because the local, campus and chapter climates are conducive to inclusion.

Oh and imagine how this society would really be if Southerners truly minded their own business and let others do their thing. This country's history would be a lot different and that applies to how organizations were founded and how they currently operate. GCers amuse me with these regional references that they think are flattering.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

So now you want to type about it HERE?

Stuff happens. There's a huge difference between stuff happening and fraternity and sorority infrastructures actually endorsing stuff happening. Chapters can get in a lot of trouble if they are found to have denied membership based on race or racial stereotypes. Versus what some of you seemed to be saying about your chapters that proudly (probably to the knowledge of chapter, regional and even national officials) uphold the status quo.

But, again, this is always a nontopic until people make it one for BGLOs. Despite our nondiscriminatory national statements, nonblacks do not pursue BGLOs in large numbers for a number of social and organizational reasons. The chapters that do get nonblack applicants are usually getting them because the local, campus and chapter climates are conducive to inclusion.

Oh and imagine how this society would really be if Southerners truly minded their own business and let others do their thing. This country's history would be a lot different and that applies to how organizations were founded and how they currently operate. GCers amuse me with these regional references that they think are flattering.

You go girl! I think the last paragraph is entirely appropriate to this thread. This is the same Fratty that just encouraged a guy in "skipping class to go to rush event" to skip his class because, "you have four years to go to class and one week to rush".

In the past, I thought this guy was just a dimwhit, but I now know that he would be the one putting on that Confederate Uniform that Barbino told about. But then I live near Oberlin, which is where the Civil War began with a bunch progressive Abolitionists. Maybe I should indicate that in my signature so they don't expect me to go duck hunting or fishing with the Frat Boys.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

You go girl! I think the last paragraph is entirely appropriate to this thread. This is the same Fratty that just encouraged a guy in "skipping class to go to rush event" to skip his class because, "you have four years to go to class and one week to rush".

In the past, I thought this guy was just a dimwhit, but I now know that he would be the one putting on that Confederate Uniform that Barbino told about. But then I live near Oberlin, which is where the Civil War began with a bunch progressive Abolitionists. Maybe I should indicate that in my signature so they don't expect me to go duck hunting or fishing with the Frat Boys.

Please be honest. Do you have some sort of grudge against Southern Greek life? Every time there's a topic on the subject, you come running. I am from the South and very proud of my Southern heritage. I go to an SEC school, but at the same time, I think a few of the "fratty" posters here try way too hard so maybe you're more opposed to those individuals than anything else.

Edit: You act like there's something wrong with KA wearing CSA uniforms for their composites...

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Edit: You act like there's something wrong with KA wearing CSA uniforms for their composites...

Am I the only one who caught part of that "CSA" movie on the Independent Film Channel?

[DSTCHAOS]

For me, this stuff isn't about the South because bigotry and the status quo did not begin and end with the South. It's just more overt and traditionalized in the South. I notice that on GC almost every topic turns into a regional thing or whatever (I'm not well versed in what all that stuff means, including the acronyms like SEC). But it seems that most GCers are okay with these rants as long as it stays away from *gasp* gender, race or other more pertinent social discussions that impact college students and Greeks.

Anyway...some of us from the South (even if it's not the Deep South) get annoyed with people justifying everything with "well, I'm a Southerner." Give me a break.