Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Hmmm.
Low Grades, Lack of Activities, No Leadership.
Yes, they didn't fit in.



ETA: It wasn't for race, religion, country of origination or socio-economic status.

We don't like taking guys who have personalities that don't mesh with our own. A fraternity is supposed to be a group of people that have similar tastes and interests, we aren't going to give a bid to somebody just because we think they can be a "leader in the fraternity," we have plenty of leaders as it is.

[PhiGam]

Anyway, we ended up with 16 pledges out of 19 bids given out and we only lost one guy to another fraternity. The two undecided guys had their bids extended to sunday because we really want them.

MISTAKES: One kid came to the house bragging about being a third string quarterback in high school... seriously. I also caught a few guys lying about being interested in golf so they got hammered. I'm very happy with our spring rush though, we probably had 50 guys come through here and we have one of the largest pledge classes on campus.

I also really hit it off with a few of the pledges including one kid who's a world class break dancer (not fratty by any means, but definitely a really solid guy who I pushed really hard to take his bid.) Now we have to give them all nicknames, we have already deemed two of them Chester and Legend.

[banditone]

Call the breakdancing guy Ozone or Turbo (or Special K).

[barbino]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

In what decade is Kappa Alpha living?

Having been a KA little sister while I was at Kentucky (UK), I can truly appreciate this comment. I was from the North (Chicago) and had alot of culture shock going on while I was a student there. OMG! There were people that really thought that the South would "rise again" and I never considered the Mason-Dixon line until I got to UK. Suddenly--there were these guys that liked to dress up in Confederate uniforms, they sang "Dixie" and had atrocious Southern accents. Then they kidnapped my Pi Phi pledge class and the next thing I knew I was a KA little sister, complete with a dark red rose and brothers from all areas of the South.

I remember them all, and I remember my two big brothers well. KA is a really special band of guys, but they are living in a bygone era. Life has changed since Gone With the Wind!

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by nate2512

how many white people do you know in BGLOs. It is no different.

Hmmmm, quite a few. Some even post here. Don't try to justify your own prejudices by using us.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by barbino

Having been a KA little sister while I was at Kentucky (UK), I can truly appreciate this comment. I was from the North (Chicago) and had alot of culture shock going on while I was a student there. OMG! There were people that really thought that the South would "rise again" and I never considered the Mason-Dixon line until I got to UK. Suddenly--there were these guys that liked to dress up in Confederate uniforms, they sang "Dixie" and had atrocious Southern accents. Then they kidnapped my Pi Phi pledge class and the next thing I knew I was a KA little sister, complete with a dark red rose and brothers from all areas of the South.

I remember them all, and I remember my two big brothers well. KA is a really special band of guys, but they are living in a bygone era. Life has changed since Gone With the Wind!

Someone from Chicago talking about "atrocious" accents .

I'm joking. Well, maybe.

[SWTXBelle]

OMG! People from the south having . . .southern accents??? I ask you - how dare they???

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

OMG! People from the south having . . .southern accents??? I ask you - how dare they???

There are southern accents and then there are Deep South accents. I never realized this until I was in the working world, and the deep south accents are very difficult for me to understand.

But then, where I live, you can tell what neighborhood a certain person grew up in by the way they pronounce certain words

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

There are southern accents and then there are Deep South accents. I never realized this until I was in the working world, and the deep south accents are very difficult for me to understand.

But then, where I live, you can tell what neighborhood a certain person grew up in by the way they pronounce certain words

And so it is in the South, too.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by honeychile

And so it is in the South, too.

In St. Louis (since folx can't decide if it is south or midwest) it's called the St. Louis drawl. After all these years of not living there I still find myself slipping into it at times. LOL

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Hmmmm, quite a few. Some even post here. Don't try to justify your own prejudices by using us.

And nonblacks who actually apply for membership (it doesn't happen in droves because of what BGLOs' larger aims are but it happens more at some campuses) tend not to be denied just because of their race or because of political/social views that have nothing to do with the sorority ideals.

Getting along with and relating to people in the chapter doesn't mean that there has to be a cookie cutter look or way of looking at the social world. As long as the person is not saying or doing things to undermine the organization, the rest is just an attempt at reinforcing an outdated status quo.

[PhiGam]

Yeah, this debate belongs in a different thread so CUT IT OUT NOW please.

[DSTCHAOS]

And you are supposed to be.....?

BGLOs were brought up HERE so we're discussing it HERE.

ETA: You should've stopped the thread hijack a page or so ago.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

And nonblacks who actually apply for membership (it doesn't happen in droves because of what BGLOs' larger aims are but it happens more at some campuses) tend not to be denied just because of their race or because of political/social views that have nothing to do with the sorority ideals.

So how is that not a double standard? You are saying that sometimes people are denied because of those reasons. Also, those are sororities and I have two black friends that were denied from black fraternities for being "sellouts." That is FAR worse in my opinion than KA denying someone for being a liberal, those black fraternities are missing out on upstanding young men just because their father's are successful and gave them a great education growing up.

Getting along with and relating to people in the chapter doesn't mean that there has to be a cookie cutter look or way of looking at the social world. As long as the person is not saying or doing things to undermine the organization, the rest is just an attempt at reinforcing an outdated status quo.

You are certainly free to run your organization in whatever way you see fit. I've never understood why people have a problem with a way an organization that they are not a part of is run internally. Perhaps its my southern upbringing that taught me to mind my own business and let others worry about theirs.

[DSTCHAOS]

So now you want to type about it HERE?

Stuff happens. There's a huge difference between stuff happening and fraternity and sorority infrastructures actually endorsing stuff happening. Chapters can get in a lot of trouble if they are found to have denied membership based on race or racial stereotypes. Versus what some of you seemed to be saying about your chapters that proudly (probably to the knowledge of chapter, regional and even national officials) uphold the status quo.

But, again, this is always a nontopic until people make it one for BGLOs. Despite our nondiscriminatory national statements, nonblacks do not pursue BGLOs in large numbers for a number of social and organizational reasons. The chapters that do get nonblack applicants are usually getting them because the local, campus and chapter climates are conducive to inclusion.

Oh and imagine how this society would really be if Southerners truly minded their own business and let others do their thing. This country's history would be a lot different and that applies to how organizations were founded and how they currently operate. GCers amuse me with these regional references that they think are flattering.