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Old 01-28-2008, 11:45 AM
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I disagree, Senusret. I still think it's the Democrats race to lose. Any Skylark, although I am not strictly a Democrat, I do think the Democrats can win with Hilary.

I like to watch This Week With George Stephanopoulos on Sundays, and this morning he had Obama on for half an hour. Honestly, it was painful to watch...Obama was talking and talking and I just tuned out...it was like I was listening to the teacher from Charlie Brown (wah wah wah wannn). As usual, I hear Obama speak, but he's not actually saying anything.
Senusret has a point...you have a woman and a Black man running for the presidential nomination...to a degree, you have them both splitting the votes just to get on the ballot.

And then when it became an issue of race (who will Black people vote for) it just muddied the waters even further.

Hillary isn't losing Black votes because Black people are jumping on Obama's bandwagon...she is losing because Blacks are really looking into what she has to say and how it will affect us should we decide to choose her as the presidential nominee.

And as far as Obama not 'saying' anything....you should have heard mcCain on Meet the Press earlier this month.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:37 PM
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Hillary isn't losing Black votes because Black people are jumping on Obama's bandwagon...she is losing because Blacks are really looking into what she has to say and how it will affect us should we decide to choose her as the presidential nominee.
Absolutely! I think the media has really fallen short in distinguishing this in polls. I think that their reports risk implying that black people vote black because they are -- pretty offensive to me, at least. I think Hillary and Bill's recent comments are example enough that if they actually do understand modern racial conflict, they don't really care enough about it to avoid seemingly naive racially charged remarks about Obama (namely, the MLK and Jesse Jackson comments).
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