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Old 01-28-2008, 05:00 AM
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I am loyal to the democratic party for simple agenda reasons, but my political philosophy aligns with objectivism which is often related to but is definitely not libertarian, because individual rights are up to the individual, and therefor socially liberal, but economically capitalist. Humans have a right to three things: police, military, and educations. Those are the only three functions needed from the government. But individuals have the right to decide to take advantage of those rights, and therefor taxes should be voluntary. Obviously, this won't work in the world we live in with the red tape we live in, but that is where my philosophy alligns.
I know you say that your philosophy wouldn't work in the real world, but I have to ask, hypothetically speaking, how would one go about not taking advantage of the right of having a military when the military functions at the behest of the government, not individuals? On the flip side of that, how would you be able to fund a military if you have a lot of people who don't want to pay for it?
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:13 AM
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I know you say that your philosophy wouldn't work in the real world, but I have to ask, hypothetically speaking, how would one go about not taking advantage of the right of having a military when the military functions at the behest of the government, not individuals? On the flip side of that, how would you be able to fund a military if you have a lot of people who don't want to pay for it?
Easy Question! Again, this is all hypothetical and ideal, but I will always vote according to who is the closest to achieving it. A military in this case would not consist of evil dictators who invade countries and then drain the countries money by staying there too long all the while throwing money at the people so his approval rating can go up ultimately causing the country more in debt (yeah, im not a G.W fan). No, the sense of military that would be considered under objectivism is a national gaurd and a coast gaurd. We wouldn't need protection from other countries because all business would be done based on free business that individuals create, etc. Secondly, who wouldn't pay for themselves to be protected and for their children to get educated? Obviously, some, but paying taxes would be in the interest of most. Third, not spending money on ridiculous bureaucracy would mean taxes would be even less, i.e. much more affordable, and more money would be able to be invested in education and protection.

Now, this relies on social and economic Darwinism, which is why I don't label myself a democrat. I think, yeah, it could go drastically sour, but believe you me that I have done MORE then my fair share of research on this crap, debate economic professors and analyst, and at the end of every debate, we all found a freedom of business and who you do business with means more economic competition, and competition boosts the economy more so then strongholds of the government that generally select who survives and who doesn't.

Now, for all of you who are looking at this and thinking I am totally deluded or off my mark a bit, that's fine, and hell you may be right, but I over-think these things, I mean, all I do is sit and think about this stuff, and I have managed to convince myself that this is the ultimate situation for a thriving world. If that makes me deranged, well I will then be the first to call myself that. Again, to do such an act, set up such a structure, we would need a clean slate, and there is no way we can get there, hell, not in the world we live in, so it still sits as a hypothetical theory, and will probably always be there

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Old 03-26-2008, 05:38 PM
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lets resurrect this thread now that we're well into primary season and things are getting heated! I am proud to be a liberal! ps- OBAMA '08!
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:49 AM
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I consider myself to be a moderate. I'm pretty socially conservative (i.e. I'm very pro-life and I'm not opposed to teaching abstinence in schools-along with other methods) , but I have some liberal beliefs concerning our economy and the environment (i.e. I'm pro universal health care think we need to get more into alternative energy sources before the oil runs out).
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Old 04-12-2008, 12:14 PM
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I'm very conservative. I disagree with some of what the GOP does, especially the way it appeals to single issue voters, but It is the most valid outlet I have for my preferences.

I vote on personal autonomy and responsibility lines. The socialistic tendencies of the American left scare me, as does the movement of political correctness. I fear especially falling victim to the PC plague that is overtaking Europe, as I think it has made them easy prey to the clutches of Islamofascism (which is making strides in many EU countries).
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