Sigma Sigma Sigma Closes Missouri State U. Chapter

SWTXBelle · #1 01-21-2008, 04:30 PM

And the members still don't get it. Blaming headquarters and the "old rules". Little do they know - those rules aren't all that old. It's a shame they aren't going to learn anything from this.

AGDee · #2 01-21-2008, 11:47 PM

I can't help but wonder what these women will think of the whole thing in 15 years...

gee_ess · #3 02-15-2008, 05:39 PM

I can't speak for the members, but the new inititiates feel ripped off. They had no idea that the chapter was even in danger of being removed, were never notified that they were on probation, AND feel especially unhappy that Tri Sig was removed only 10 days after they were initiated, thereby effectively ruining their collegiate Greek experience with no chance of pledging elsewhere.

Surely, at the very least, a group should be obligated to let its new members know about probations, etc. We make sure gpa's, costs, etc are available.

33girl · #4 02-15-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gee_ess

I can't speak for the members, but the new inititiates feel ripped off. They had no idea that the chapter was even in danger of being removed, were never notified that they were on probation, AND feel especially unhappy that Tri Sig was removed only 10 days after they were initiated, thereby effectively ruining their collegiate Greek experience with no chance of pledging elsewhere.

Surely, at the very least, a group should be obligated to let its new members know about probations, etc. We make sure gpa's, costs, etc are available.

Yes, a chapter should let the pledges know about that. But on the other side of the coin - the national office knew when initiation was (or should have) and could have come in and pulled the charter before that or told the chapter that they needed to delay initiation until an investigation could be made.

Both sides are in the wrong, IMO.

RushLeader08 · #5 02-15-2008, 06:11 PM

those poor tri sigmas! why wouldnt they just suspend them socially or something like that. you know community service hours or something??? i just feel so bad for all those girls!

gee_ess · #6 02-15-2008, 06:47 PM

Exactly, 33Girl - I would really like to know the timeline of events regarding their decision to pull this chapter. Where were the chapter advisors? Where were the national reps and what steps were taken that led to this decision? Repeated infractions are usually more commonwith frats who often have less involved advisors (IMO). Surely there was LOTS of interaction between the local campus panhellenic, national and regional officers, etc before this happened. And, if there was, and the members were repeatedly violating the rules, then why were they even allowed to recruit this year? Seems like a punishment like that would have opened a few eyes and got their attention! (not to mention making it common knowledge that this group was in peril)
To my knowledge (and I live in Missouri) a lot of people were blindsided by this decision.

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Yes, a chapter should let the pledges know about that. But on the other side of the coin - the national office knew when initiation was (or should have) and could have come in and pulled the charter before that or told the chapter that they needed to delay initiation until an investigation could be made.

Both sides are in the wrong, IMO.

33girl · #7 02-15-2008, 06:52 PM

A chapter on my campus was "reorganized" after their HQ found out they were hazing. They made all the active sisters go alum and kept the pledge class as the active chapter. Then again, I think that the pledges were the ones who blew the whistle on the hazing.

These pledges, on the other hand, sound like they would just do all the same things that were done to them. If they were a little cannier, they'd have at least pretended to be upset and traumatized.

gee_ess · #8 02-15-2008, 06:58 PM

Some of them may have been upset and just not admitting it - but on the flip side, until you are a member and really learn about Greek life, etc. you might not realize how illegal some of these seemingly minor events are. These pledges were freshmen, new to college, Greek life, etc. Who ever told them that blindfolds are hazing? Unless they were attending campus wide panhellenic meetings on this type of stuff, they were just going along with the people in charge...- I don't think we can blame pledges - they were the "victims" at the very least.

fantASTic · #9 02-16-2008, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

A chapter on my campus was "reorganized" after their HQ found out they were hazing. They made all the active sisters go alum and kept the pledge class as the active chapter. Then again, I think that the pledges were the ones who blew the whistle on the hazing.

These pledges, on the other hand, sound like they would just do all the same things that were done to them. If they were a little cannier, they'd have at least pretended to be upset and traumatized.

You know...according to the article, the new members didn't even think they had been hazed. I'm not calling conspiracy theory here,but that definitely concerns me. One of them apparently even recited the definition right there and said, "We have NOT been hazed."

Is it possible that there's a lot of overreaction going on here?