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Old 01-13-2008, 06:07 PM
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I, for one, am having more and more trouble believing any of these studies anymore. I think you can twist results to say whatever you want them to.

I don't smoke, never have, but I think I'll go have a nice greasy cheeseburger and some fries.
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Old 01-13-2008, 08:51 PM
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I for one will take the crazy approach of giving more weight and hence credence to the volumes upon volumes of studies showing the health risks of 'second hand smoke' published over the last five decades than some study put forth by a Philip Morris stooge - I prefer my health studies not unbiased, or at least to pretend to have that pretext unlike the drivel you cite here Tom.
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:25 AM
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but I think I'll go have a nice greasy cheeseburger and some fries.

You won't find a study that says that tasty meal isn't okay in moderation.
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:24 PM
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Yes, I own a smoke shop and was only giving some information for reading.

Each and everyone else can make up their minds and do not need to get nasty about it!

Each can say what they want and that is fine.
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:06 PM
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Yes, I own a smoke shop and was only giving some information for reading.

Each and everyone else can make up their minds and do not need to get nasty about it!

Each can say what they want and that is fine.
We're being entertained like always. Don't act brand new, Tom.

Your post was just interesting. "No threat...read here for why..."
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:54 PM
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ohhh boy here it comes

Has anyone here ever walked through the wall of smoke in front of a building (hospitals are huge offenders), only to cough and choke and their eyes begin to burn?

I always wondered where that cloud came from. Was it foggy out? Was there a garbage can on fire? Well hell if I knew. I just knew it made me sick. Wait - there are a bunch of people hudled over near the front door - smoking!

If 3-5 seconds of second hand smoke so graciously deposited into the general outdoor breathing air is enough to make someone cough and sputter, how much of an intellectual jump does it take to imagine that years of living (being trapped) with a smoker (let's say 2 self centered parents or even a spouse) will have a negative effect on those who are subject to the closed interiors of homes and vehicles?

Why do smokers habitually keep their windows shut? I swear there was a half inch of tobacco dust on everything in my house and our car when I was a kid.

As a person with a genetic, progressive, terminal lung disease, it irks me to no end that people with normal healthy lungs choose to do the equivalent of sucking on the end of a 67 dodge's tailpipe. Just DON'T DO IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE EXPOSED TO YOUR POISON.

Studies, theories, don't show them to me. I have seen enough throat, esophageal and lung cancer, heart disease, and strokes in people who were chain smokers. I am not a scientist, nor do I understand statistics much, but you have to be an idiot to think that there would be NO NEGATIVE EFFECTS on someone who has been forced ( or choose) to breathe in your cancer sticks.

Go ahead and smoke. Just not in front of me.

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Old 01-14-2008, 05:34 PM
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You won't find a study that says that tasty meal isn't okay in moderation.
I'm a Moderator, so I guess I'll have them three times a day...

Just kidding.

On the other hand, my grandmother fried almost eveything and my grandfather lived to age 98.

Obviously I'm not even hinting that anyone should go out and eat a lot of greasy food and smoke, but I think every body is different and reacts differently to diet and other lifestyle issues.
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:41 PM
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I'm a Moderator, so I guess I'll have them three times a day...

Just kidding.

On the other hand, my grandmother fried almost eveything and my grandfather lived to age 98.

Obviously I'm not even hinting that anyone should go out and eat a lot of greasy food and smoke, but I think every body is different and reacts differently to diet and other lifestyle issues.

Make sure you share your tasty meal with the rest of us. I think I can stand eating about half of it until my body revolts.

Yep and there are people who still eat things like fatback and other foods that are now viewed as signs of poverty or lack of info. Some of these people live until they are 100. How healthy most of them are is a different story. As far as I'm concerned, no doctor worth her or his salt will tell us that there's a human alive who can eat carelessly all the time (especially sedentary people) without any internal and external repurcussions of some sort. Even if it's heartburn...that can end up something else eventually.

It's like the 70 year old "habitual cougher" who says "I've smoked all of my life and I'm not dead yet...nor do I have cancer...*weeze...weeze*..."
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As someone who suffers from chronic lung ailments aggravated by being exposed to secondhand smoke, I call bullllsheet.
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