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01-08-2008, 11:20 AM
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On the other hand, who knows, it could provide some measure of "birth control" within the school. Instead of these girls dropping out and never being seen around school again (there could be some "cool mystique" for those left in classes all day), they'll still be in circulation, probably exhausted and irritated, if the baby had a bad night, and they'll share the "real" stories of what having a baby is like, versus everyone else who can still talk about all their free time and social schedules. The set-up could require the moms to spend their lunch breaks or certain times of the day in the center and could also provide some parenting/coping courses, which I can only imagine 16, 17 year olds will desperately need. And I particularly see how trying something "different" like this might be a positive because:

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I suppose if it really was that common, they could have a daycare center and the girls AND THE FATHERS should have to take turns staffing it. Even if that means they have to take an extra semester or two because they had to spend a few free periods a day babysitting.
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01-08-2008, 11:24 AM
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Oh, EXCELLENT point!!!!! Yes, that might definitely have some "ripple-effect" in the behaviors out there. Ok, big stud, you got her pregnant, now, this is how you change a dirty diaper...
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01-08-2008, 11:53 AM
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I suppose if it really was that common, they could have a daycare center and the girls AND THE FATHERS should have to take turns staffing it. Even if that means they have to take an extra semester or two because they had to spend a few free periods a day babysitting.
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Good idea...but then taxpayers would pay for having licenced staff *wink*
This whole thing is tho...it's almost a damned if you do, damned if you don't proposition.
And I honestly feel when doing things like this, it really undermines the already low bar of the educational system that we have in this country.
Not only would the ones in question get 4 weeks (provided that there are no complications) but they need to miss days to go to the doc and so forth...
I think that this program isn't encouraging them to go and get back into school and moreso pushing them towards dropping out...
If this plan is well thought out, I would like to see a provision in there somewhere that shows that while the mother is out, she get materials from the school that would allow her to keep up with what's going on in class....
Reality of it tho....is how many would really take advantage of that program?
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01-08-2008, 11:56 AM
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Good idea...but then taxpayers would pay for having licenced staff *wink*
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Licensed staff, my ass. You created it, you learn how to care for it. Babysitters don't have to be licensed, and I would think there would be a way to get around calling it an actual "daycare" center.
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01-08-2008, 12:03 PM
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Licensed staff, my ass. You created it, you learn how to care for it. Babysitters don't have to be licensed, and I would think there would be a way to get around calling it an actual "daycare" center.
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There are and if you try to find ways to get around it it leaves you less to work with should something go wrong.
I like where you want to go...but think about it...once something bad happens to just one child in one of these facilities and the first question that comes up is:
Were they licenced?
Not that it changes matters any but what kind of recourse would you have if you knowingly left your child in the hands of an incapable teen (on school <read: local gov't property> grounds) and something happens?
Granted you may be onto something but it's a huge risk IMO.
ETA: Just did a bit of digging...Baltimore has a school that dealt with this issue for years and the founder of the school just recently passed: http://wjz.com/topstories/Laurence.G....2.431429.html
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01-08-2008, 12:17 PM
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Not that it changes matters any but what kind of recourse would you have if you knowingly left your child in the hands of an incapable teen (on school <read: local gov't property> grounds) and something happens?
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WAIVER
To Whom It May Concern:
Your dumb ass got pregnant, and now to stay in school, you must take part in the on-school daycare program. This requires you to staff, as well as leave your child in the care of, said on-school daycare center. If you get hurt by one of the other dumbasses' kids who are in the center, or if your child gets hurt by one of the other dumbasses who staff the center, the school has no liability. Next time, wrap it up.
[Excess legal jargon here.]
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01-08-2008, 12:21 PM
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WAIVER
To Whom It May Concern:
Your dumb ass got pregnant, and now to stay in school, you must take part in the on-school daycare program. This requires you to staff, as well as leave your child in the care of, said on-school daycare center. If you get hurt by one of the other dumbasses' kids who are in the center, or if your child gets hurt by one of the other dumbasses who staff the center, the school has no liability. Next time, wrap it up.
[Excess legal jargon here.]
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damn....just............damn......AF
just so wrong....but I LIKES!!
PPssssst...do they allow spankings and other types of corporal punishment to keep these lil bad ass kids in line here too?
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01-08-2008, 12:29 PM
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WAIVER
To Whom It May Concern:
Your dumb ass got pregnant, and now to stay in school, you must take part in the on-school daycare program. This requires you to staff, as well as leave your child in the care of, said on-school daycare center. If you get hurt by one of the other dumbasses' kids who are in the center, or if your child gets hurt by one of the other dumbasses who staff the center, the school has no liability. Next time, wrap it up.
[Excess legal jargon here.]
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01-08-2008, 12:47 PM
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Don't forget this:
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
WAIVER
To Whom It May Concern:
Your dumb ass got pregnant [or got someone pregnant], and now to stay in school, you must take part in the on-school daycare program. This requires you to staff, as well as leave your child in the care of, said on-school daycare center. If you get hurt by one of the other dumbasses' kids who are in the center, or if your child gets hurt by one of the other dumbasses who staff the center, the school has no liability. Next time, wrap it up.
[Excess legal jargon here.]
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Precisely. While I love this idea, I just know that it wouldn't be feasible. While they wouldn't be licensed, the insurance of the school would go through the roof if you had an on-site day care program staffed by dumbass hornball adolescents. Now if it was off-site, then I don't know how that would affect things.
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01-08-2008, 12:49 PM
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Thank you. As much as I enjoy amusing myself with things like this, I must say...YOU WIN.
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01-08-2008, 01:13 PM
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Don't forget this:
Precisely. While I love this idea, I just know that it wouldn't be feasible. While they wouldn't be licensed, the insurance of the school would go through the roof if you had an on-site day care program staffed by dumbass hornball adolescents. Now if it was off-site, then I don't know how that would affect things.
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and what do you do if one of those staffer got pregnant on site.....?
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01-08-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
WAIVER
To Whom It May Concern:
Your dumb ass got pregnant, and now to stay in school, you must take part in the on-school daycare program. This requires you to staff, as well as leave your child in the care of, said on-school daycare center. If you get hurt by one of the other dumbasses' kids who are in the center, or if your child gets hurt by one of the other dumbasses who staff the center, the school has no liability. Next time, wrap it up.
[Excess legal jargon here.]
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