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Old 01-06-2008, 01:14 PM
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This may just be that I'm really naiive about it, but if they really want to get off the reservation to make somethng more of themselves, they can right? Or are there rules against it?

One of my coworkers is Native American and she works in an office for a huge corporation. She doesn't participate in her tribe stuff but she says it's OK because she went to college and is making something of herself.

Her boyfriend I believe is also Native American.. he "looks" Native American but lives in the city limits (i.e. not on a reservation) and participates with stuff that his tribe does (cultural and stuff like that). She has told me sooooooo many stories of the tribes using the casino money for things that it wasn't supposed to be used for and how everything is "corrupt" (her word, not mine) and basically a huge mess with them.

She does some volunteer work for a children's home there where basically all the kid's parents there are in jail which is a really really sad situation.
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:35 PM
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There are 2 (or it might be 3) casinos in the Maricopa County area. One in Scottsdale, one in the Laveen area (where I live) and one in Casa Grande. Now, the one in near Laveen, I've never been too, but literally 2 miles west of my house Indian Reservation land "begins". It is quite sad to drive down Baseline and see the houses. From the street you can see such dilapitated homes and look like a strong wind will knock them over. But then in the distance you see the "nice" homes. It's quite sad because from those images you can tell and determine that the distribution of wealth from the casinos (which are hugely popular here) isn't being done. It's really quite sad.

I haven't read the article yet, but from the sounds of it, it sounds like they want to "have their cake and eat it too". You can't have it both ways. You can't say on one hand "we don't want to be part of the United States" and then still be able to call yourself a US citizen and reap all the benefits of citizenship.

Question, if they actually win their case and are no longer part of the US, which means they aren't US citizens, wouldn't they in all technicalities be considered illegal immigrants?
They don't want the benefits of being US citizens. They would renounce their US citizenship. Also they would not be living on American soil, but Lakota soil. Also, it isn't automatic, they're not saying anyone who has any Lakota blood will go along with this, so Joe who lives in Chicago and is half or even all Lakota is only a part of this if he so chooses.
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This may just be that I'm really naiive about it, but if they really want to get off the reservation to make somethng more of themselves, they can right? Or are there rules against it?
They don't want to have to leave their land and their home just to "make something" of themselves. And you don't have to leave the reservation to do so. However poverty is such a huge issue and they don't feel like their needs are being appropriately addressed by a government that they've developed a lot of distrust for over hundreds of years. Poverty means you can't just leave to do better. Education that's not adequately reaching AI youth is also a problem [/quote]

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One of my coworkers is Native American and she works in an office for a huge corporation. She doesn't participate in her tribe stuff but she says it's OK because she went to college and is making something of herself.

Her boyfriend I believe is also Native American.. he "looks" Native American but lives in the city limits (i.e. not on a reservation) and participates with stuff that his tribe does (cultural and stuff like that). She has told me sooooooo many stories of the tribes using the casino money for things that it wasn't supposed to be used for and how everything is "corrupt" (her word, not mine) and basically a huge mess with them.

She does some volunteer work for a children's home there where basically all the kid's parents there are in jail which is a really really sad situation.
What the Lakota leadership want is for their children to get educated and then come back to help the people, not to say that they don't need to be a part of it because they're better. I don't know what the Lakota's relationship to casinos are, but one experience does not make a good generalization especially considering that there are different tribes and nations.
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