Greek Social Life - Then and Now

ree-Xi · #1 12-28-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SNBullet

Also, girls dont carry condoms, the guys do.

And to Dino, girls not carrying condoms is not dirty, its the guys job to worry about that. If he doesnt have one, he gets nothing.

How, in 2007, with all we know about STDs, and the still too-high number of unwanted teen pregnancies, can anyone say that it is "the guys' job"? Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant!

Seriously, girls, protect yourself. If there is any chance in hell of you hooking up, carry your own protection. Alcohol impairs judgment, and in the heat of the moment, more people are likely to chance it than stop what they're doing.

This is why there are still so many nasty STDs and sexually-transmitted AIDS and unwanted preganancies. (And don't preach to me that no birth control is 100% effective. I am talking about blatant NON USE of condoms).

/end soapbox preaching

MaggieXi · #2 12-28-2007, 11:43 AM

Themed Gatherings:
-Now: Cops and Robbers (girls in booty shorts and low-cut tops with push-up Bras). "_____ and Ho" (Golf Pros and Tennis Hos, Pimp and Ho, CEOs and Office Hos). 80s themes (explained to her that we didn't wear mini skirts up to our ass), Trailer Trash
-Then: Luau, Double-vision, Fiesta, Toga, Disco Fever, Flash Dance, Preppy, Caddy Shack, Casino, Old West.

We had Golf Pros/Tennis Hos but most of the girls ended up wearing tennis skirts and polos or cardigans with name tags like "Buffy". Octoberfest - which was a lot of shorts with suspenders and knee socks. Most fraternity mixers were in 70s garb, heven and hell (dress like a devil or angel) and Ski Bunnies and Instructors where everyone dressed up in ski gear or thermals. Yes there are girls out there that dress a little more pervocative, but not the majority!

Formals:
-Now: Buy a new dress and jewelry. Have hair and makeup done. Manicure and Pedicure. Rent limo or ride in luxury bus. Afterparty in a hotel suite with a jacuzzi.
-Then: Swap your last formal dress with a sister and borrow jewelry off someone else. Do your own hair and makeup. Paint your nails and maybe your toe nails too. Date meets you at the house and you board one of the busses. Afterparty in someone's off-campus apartment

We swaped dresses with each other or other members of sororities we were friends with. Some people would go get new dresses but it certainly wasn't a must. We usually did our own hair or makeup -- the seniors might all go get their nails done together if it was their last formal. We took a bus to formal and a bus back. Most after partys were people sitting around in their pjs eating pizza and rehashing the night.

Alcohol and Drugs
-Now: Beer and Hard Liquor, Crystal Meth, Crack, Heroin, Ritalin
-Then: Beer, Grain Alcohol, a little pot, Coffee

Beer, hard liqour, grain alchohol, and pot were popular. There was some coke use you would hear about, but that could have been rumors or if there was use it was pretty hush hush.

Sex
-Now: You carry condoms on you at all times and you hook up very casually with anyone, of any sex, and everyone knows. Walk of shame is shamless. Worry is HIV and STDs
-Then (note: AIDS had just been identified): Girls who were pinned and lavaliered spent the night with their BFs, everyone knows. Girl hooks up with someone after a date party and only roommate knows. Walk of Shame was shameful. Worry was pregnancy and STDs

Walk of shame is still shamful, if you its a known random hook-up. The stereotype from the 60s and 70s was "free love" -- I think its less free love now then then. People are more knowledgable about STDs, AIDS and safe sex.
Also,

-Now Cyber Stalking
-Then Catty Bitch down the hall calls you names

Cyber stalking, I'll give you that one. The catty bitch on your hall -- well isn't there always one?

-Now Crazy Students shoot up classrooms
-Then Crazy Girls shoot you with mace

Im sorry, but school shooting are in no way common. There have been 8 big shootings at colleges since 1960.

I think it basically comes down to the greek member and how they were raised and the institution they attend.

SNBullet · #3 12-28-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi

How, in 2007, with all we know about STDs, and the still too-high number of unwanted teen pregnancies, can anyone say that it is "the guys' job"? Ignorant, ignorant, ignorant!

Seriously, girls, protect yourself. If there is any chance in hell of you hooking up, carry your own protection. Alcohol impairs judgment, and in the heat of the moment, more people are likely to chance it than stop what they're doing.

This is why there are still so many nasty STDs and sexually-transmitted AIDS and unwanted preganancies. (And don't preach to me that no birth control is 100% effective. I am talking about blatant NON USE of condoms).

/end soapbox preaching

No offense, but if you ask a guy to have sex with you, and he doesnt have a condom and you do it anyway, you deserve any funky cheese you get. Same goes for guys, if you dont have a condom and you know a girl in the biblical sense, you derserve whatever you catch. Alchohol is no excuse for impaired judgement. dont drink as much.

I drink, and yet somehow i am able to avoid all these temptations and dont make stupid choices. if you get sloshed and make bad choices then thats the consequence of your action. deal with it.

kathykd2005 · #4 12-28-2007, 12:31 PM

I'm not sure if anyone "deserves" any "funky cheese," but I do understand where you are coming from. If you make stupid decisions, be prepared to deal with the consequences of those choices.

33girl · #5 12-28-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I'm not sure if anyone "deserves" any "funky cheese," but I do understand where you are coming from. If you make stupid decisions, be prepared to deal with the consequences of those choices.

Like I said above...it's not a question of anyone "deserving" anything, or if girls carry condoms they're sluts, or if guys carry them they're sluts. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. AIDS does not have a cure...the spread of it affects many more people than just the people who have the disease.

kathykd2005 · #6 12-28-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Like I said above...it's not a question of anyone "deserving" anything, or if girls carry condoms they're sluts, or if guys carry them they're sluts. IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. AIDS does not have a cure...the spread of it affects many more people than just the people who have the disease.

I was not addressing you personally, I was addressing another poster, but I am WELL AWARE of the issue of AIDS. Obviously it is a public issue; I am not afraid to say that my mother died of AIDS complications in 1996. However, that doesn't mean that certain decisions people make don't cause the issue of AIDS, does it?

SWTXBelle · #7 12-28-2007, 01:26 PM

For what it is worth - when I was taking my high school senior English classes to the Rice University library I would always warn them that there was a vending machine which sold highlighters, post-it notes, and condoms. I didn't want them giggling and pointing (which happened my first time there

). So apparently, if you hook up between the stacks, neither has to bring a condom - just enough quarters!

33girl · #8 12-28-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I was not addressing you personally, I was addressing another poster, but I am WELL AWARE of the issue of AIDS. Obviously it is a public issue; I am not afraid to say that my mother died of AIDS complications in 1996. However, that doesn't mean that certain decisions people make don't cause the issue of AIDS, does it?

Yeah, I probably should have also quoted SNBullet - but the fact is the bad decision is the not using the condom or protecting yourself, not the sleeping around. (That is, this is a health issue not a moral issue.)

Benzgirl · #9 12-28-2007, 04:13 PM

Seems I am taking a beating for what I was told.
First, I had to Google Rainbow Party. Had no clue since I'm not up on Urban Slang.

Girls do carry condoms and should carry condoms if they intend on hooking up. No one should ever rely on someone else to be responsible for their health.

The TGs and parties...evidently some campuses (and some chapters) are more risque than others. She has shown me pictures, so she wasn't lying. I even saw some resemblance to Brit-Brit's comeback flop where her muffin-top was hanging over her bottoms. I check facebook from time to time to see what is happening at our chapter at a local school. Glad to say that our sorority is not the ones striking sultry poses with the caption, "Happy to be a new sexy ABC", or playing kissy-face with their sisters.

The formals...I'm sure what I wrote was the extreme, but she was referring to one particular chapter where I have no doubt it's true. This is the house that had "fake-bakes" back when I was in school and always had daddy buy them a new car.

The drugs. Trust me...It's there. One Miami University Sigma Nu OD'd last month on Methadone. There also have been several threads on GC to support chapters whose charters' were pulled due to drugs. I didn't do weed when I was in school, but it was there. I never said that everyone was doing it, but the drugs today seem to be more addictive.

The stalkings and the shootings....
Stalkings are probably happening moreso in the form of lurkings. Hell, my mother Googles her grandchildren on a regular basis and is horrified that results say, "XXX Jane Doe XXX Nude Photos". Mom hasn't figured out if she Googled herself, there would be Nude Photos of herself out there
The kids are concerned about shootings. I don't think I ever would have thought it could happen when I was in college. Maybe the fear is a good thing. It makes them more cautious.

SNBullet · #10 12-28-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I'm not sure if anyone "deserves" any "funky cheese," but I do understand where you are coming from. If you make stupid decisions, be prepared to deal with the consequences of those choices.

I mean deserve in the sense that if you have unprotected sex with a random guy, you shouldnt be surprised if you get some sort of bug. i dont mena to sound harsh, but its the way i feel.

kathykd2005 · #11 12-28-2007, 04:22 PM

I know what you meant. Moral or health reasons, if you don't do what you should do (protect yourself, whether it be spiritually or physically), then the reaction won't be a positive one.

ThetaPrincess24 · #12 12-29-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SNBullet

No offense, but if you ask a guy to have sex with you, and he doesnt have a condom and you do it anyway, you deserve any funky cheese you get. Same goes for guys, if you dont have a condom and you know a girl in the biblical sense, you derserve whatever you catch. Alchohol is no excuse for impaired judgement. dont drink as much.

I drink, and yet somehow i am able to avoid all these temptations and dont make stupid choices. if you get sloshed and make bad choices then thats the consequence of your action. deal with it.

Exactly!!!!

I have little sympathy for men & women who come into my clinic claiming alcohol and/or drugs is why they have an STD.