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Old 12-21-2007, 02:51 AM
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I'm not sure how taxes work for the Lakota now, but considering they'd be renouncing their US citizenship, I doubt they would be eligible to receive government aid and wouldn't pay taxes either.

Assuming this ever occurs though.
I'm pretty sure they receive more than they pay.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:53 AM
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I'm pretty sure they receive more than they pay.
Perhaps, my point is they may not pay the same taxes as you or I now. Tribal lands are considered semi-autonomous. Also, many tribes are taking over services that were once provided by outside state and/or federal agencies because they're not effectively targeting the tribal populations. Schools are a big example. I'm just saying that everyone can stop complaining about their tax dollars because residency in the new country appears to require renouncing your US citizenship. You wouldn't then turn around and receive Medicaid because you do not reside in the US, nor are you a citizen.

(All operating on the assumption that their suit is successful. I suspect they'll end up settling with the US government.)

Honestly, the way Am. Indians have been treated in this country, I don't blame them. The least of which is that they're stereotyped as either the noble savage, the casino owner, or the alcoholic living on "our" tax dollars. And considering the US can't be bothered to actually adhere to the written treaties that exist with the various populations, good on them.
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:06 PM
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Perhaps, my point is they may not pay the same taxes as you or I now. Tribal lands are considered semi-autonomous. Also, many tribes are taking over services that were once provided by outside state and/or federal agencies because they're not effectively targeting the tribal populations. Schools are a big example. I'm just saying that everyone can stop complaining about their tax dollars because residency in the new country appears to require renouncing your US citizenship. You wouldn't then turn around and receive Medicaid because you do not reside in the US, nor are you a citizen.

(All operating on the assumption that their suit is successful. I suspect they'll end up settling with the US government.)

Honestly, the way Am. Indians have been treated in this country, I don't blame them. The least of which is that they're stereotyped as either the noble savage, the casino owner, or the alcoholic living on "our" tax dollars. And considering the US can't be bothered to actually adhere to the written treaties that exist with the various populations, good on them.
While I empathize with the historical abuses they have suffered...this is just cutting their nose off to spite their face. I just hope it is all a ploy to update and modernize treaty agreements.

I guess what I would do would make me an "ugly" american.

You want to be a sovereign nation...fine.

Time to negotiate contracts for your utilties (or do you produce your own electricity and have your own water resources).

You are now an international border. No one in or out without a passport. No one works outside your country in the US without a green card. Stand in line to get one. Want an education at a US school, apply for a student visa.

Trade with you for goods and services will have to come under international trade regulations (yes yes I am aware most are a joke). Trust that what you export to us just may incurr some tariffs and other restrictions. We don't have a fair trade agreement with you.

Oh and just how are you going to get your trade with other nations into you? Have an airport that can handle shipping containers? Need a highway in to you....uh, doesn't it have to go through us first? Rail access?

You need a national defense? I hope you have a munitions industry to gear up to make your weapons , cause right now there are trade and travel restrictions regarding weapons trading with you.

It seems to me that the tribes want it both ways...autonomy with the benefits of US citizenship.
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