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Old 12-19-2007, 02:32 PM
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Where I've seen it discussed most is his experience in the Illinois legislature, I most recently saw a quote in an article (Time or Newsweek I think) from a Republican who was pro-death penalty and how Obama was the first one to work with him on the topic despite their opposing views and how surprised he was at this. I think it's also that his "message" as it were, appeals to members of both parties, even if in the end they wouldn't vote for him. These guys will though http://www.republicansforobama.org

From Obama's site: "His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent."

I have a lot in the way of sources at my fingertips because a lot of the stuff was local to living here. But, he doesn't seem to play the partisan "game" the same way others do. And being from Illinois, I'm so sick of politics as usual. If he loses the election, I want him to come back and run for governor. *Please Obama Please* because Illinois needs some sanity.
Hm - I'll have to read more into his time in the Illinois Legislature, thanks.

However, the above is still kind of hollow for me - for instance, many many many bills are co-sponsored by members of both parties, the bill is VERY specious in that the term "rebuild trust" shows an agenda beyond the bill itself, "doesn't play the game" doesn't really mean anything to me, I don't know what "working with" someone with diametrically opposed views really means since there's no real compromise to death, etc. etc. etc. - and that's kind of the problem.

Obama's message seems kind of hollow, and there doesn't seem to be much meat on his ideas (very similar to Ron Paul in my mind, just in a completely different fashion). I do agree that his message is meant to appeal to both sides of the aisle - but in doing so, I think he's done this through rhetoric alone. I realize this is not uncommon, and that's what makes me really worry that Obama really is exactly "politics as usual" instead of anything really mold-breaking. Maybe I'm out there for feeling this, though . . . but it's not like others are lining up to explain "how" or tell where the money will really come from, after all.
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