Who is this Ron Paul?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by honeychile

There must be a lot of local SHIMs - I went into a grocery store today, came out, and just about every car had a Ron Paul bumper sticker. That's one of the fastest ways to lose my vote.

Drolefille, that's an interesting synopsis - at least as intelligent of some of the talking heads I've heard recently. That still doesn't leave a strong winner in the bunch, or a candidate who can mend the blue/red divide in this country. As if that's possible, I suppose.

I have my heart set on Obama, so what can I say. I think he's shown a good ability to work with people from all political PoVs. But I'll see what happens in the general election.

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Drolefille, I agree, I very much enjoyed your post. My favorites were Hunter - Gatherer? and Biden - your time?

Well, when I have to look your name up on Wiki to know if you're a candidate, it's not going well for you

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I don't know what a SHIM is, but it sounds interesting!

SHIM

[Kevin]

I'll be voting for Paul in the primary, but only because I know he'll lose.

Yes, some of his policies do scare the bejeezus out of me.

On the other hand, I like his core principles: Being a strict constructionist in terms of construing governmental powers granted by the Constitution, state powers (I want the states to be stronger), libertarianism in general, etc. I figure the larger the minority is which votes for Paul, the more attention those sorts of ideas will be given in the general election.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

SHIM

Ah, thank you. I was trying to decipher it in terms of the presidential race, trying to throw a "hippie" in there or "independent" or "moderate"... so I was waaaay off-track. When I've seen that term I've usually seen the "slash" version, as in s/he, etc.

[kddani]

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Believe it or not, you're not a moderator and you don't make the rules here. There is nothing in the TOS to force people to ask that you not spam GC with your way-too-many links to various news sites. It's annoying and adds nothing to the conversation. And since you do it constantly with many of the same sites, many people view it as spamming.

It's well known to everyone who has ever been a mod since you found GC that between reporting posts and cutting and pasting links, there is little else you do on greekchat. You did it all the time when GP and I were mods. You report anything and everything and everybody, and many times you report the SAME thing over and over again if a mod doesn't delete what you posted. Stop being a tattletale about every little BS thing that NO ONE CARES ABOUT.

Go ahead, report me. Yawn.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by honeychile

There must be a lot of local SHIMs - I went into a grocery store today, came out, and just about every car had a Ron Paul bumper sticker. That's one of the fastest ways to lose my vote.

But the question is, which grocery store? Shop & Save, Market District, the Bird or Whole Foods? LOL. We could probably make some sort of correlation between where you shop and who you're going to vote for.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Obama - I like his approach to politics, and I like his views. I like his ability to work with people he doesn't agree with and to reach "across the aisle" as it were.

I don't mean to challenge the idea, because I don't really know, but where do you get the impression that he is uniquely able to work with people he doesn't agree with? Do you have any examples of that?

I ask because I actually think that Obama's campaign strategy seems geared toward painting himself as some sort of unifying figure, but for the life of me I can't think of a single time, idea, platform or belief that actually reaches that goal or actually should be used to cast him in that light.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by 33girl

But the question is, which grocery store? Shop & Save, Market District, the Bird or Whole Foods? LOL. We could probably make some sort of correlation between where you shop and who you're going to vote for.

I should have made myself clearer - it was obvious that a campaign worker had gone car to car, not that all of the Ron Paul voters were shopping there. It was a Shop & Save, for what it's worth - they make the more complicated Christmas cookies (ladylocks, tassies, etc) for less than half of most places!

Any thoughts on how Oprah is going to affect the Obama vote?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I should have made myself clearer - it was obvious that a campaign worker had gone car to car, not that all of the Ron Paul voters were shopping there. It was a Shop & Save, for what it's worth - they make the more complicated Christmas cookies (ladylocks, tassies, etc) for less than half of most places!

I get it now...I was wondering why a bunch of people having his bumper sticker would make you not vote for him.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I should have made myself clearer - it was obvious that a campaign worker had gone car to car, not that all of the Ron Paul voters were shopping there. It was a Shop & Save, for what it's worth - they make the more complicated Christmas cookies (ladylocks, tassies, etc) for less than half of most places!

You mean he stuck bumper stickers on the cars?? That's effed up. They really need to try that at the South Hills Market District so they can get an ass-whomping.

For the uninitiated: Market District is a division of our biggest local grocery chain and pretty much a wannabe Whole Foods. Soccer moms w/ big and/or expensive vehicles shop there.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by 33girl

You mean he stuck bumper stickers on the cars?? That's effed up. They really need to try that at the South Hills Market District so they can get an ass-whomping.

Indeed. I ripped mine off immediately. I see no sense in sporting a bumper sticker for someone whose platform I'm not familiar with yet.

For the uninitiated: Market District is a division of our biggest local grocery chain and pretty much a wannabe Whole Foods. Soccer moms w/ big and/or expensive vehicles shop there.

The ADPi EO sister I mention on these boards is one of the pharmacists there. It's almost TOO big!

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I don't mean to challenge the idea, because I don't really know, but where do you get the impression that he is uniquely able to work with people he doesn't agree with? Do you have any examples of that?

I ask because I actually think that Obama's campaign strategy seems geared toward painting himself as some sort of unifying figure, but for the life of me I can't think of a single time, idea, platform or belief that actually reaches that goal or actually should be used to cast him in that light.

Where I've seen it discussed most is his experience in the Illinois legislature, I most recently saw a quote in an article (Time or Newsweek I think) from a Republican who was pro-death penalty and how Obama was the first one to work with him on the topic despite their opposing views and how surprised he was at this. I think it's also that his "message" as it were, appeals to members of both parties, even if in the end they wouldn't vote for him. These guys will though http://www.republicansforobama.org

From Obama's site: "His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent."

I have a lot in the way of sources at my fingertips because a lot of the stuff was local to living here. But, he doesn't seem to play the partisan "game" the same way others do. And being from Illinois, I'm so sick of politics as usual. If he loses the election, I want him to come back and run for governor. *Please Obama Please* because Illinois needs some sanity.

[Drolefille]

I just remembered there's a crazily painted car.. yellow with red white and blue on the sides that I'm 95% sure is for Ron Paul an has been parked in my school's parking lot for the past month or so. Not sure if it's still there now that the semester is over. I didn't really see the point.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I wish Bill Richardson were a more serious contender for the Democratic nomination. I think John Edwards is a fine fellow and all, but I believe his one and only shot at the Executive Branch came and went in 2004. I would much rather Richardson be the other member of the triad that gets the most coverage, I think he would provide a much better comparison/contrast with the other two front runners. He is the only one with (elected) executive branch experience and front-line foreign policy experience. And he too would be a first, he is Mexican and Catholic (and greek! he was president of Delta Tau Delta at Tufts -- his bio says he was almost impeached in the early 60s when he cracked down on pot usage in the house, lol)

Yes!

[nittanyalum]

^^^Richardson was the guest on last night's Daily Show repeat.