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Old 12-14-2007, 04:46 PM
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Best article or commentary on the tragedy and attendant debate I have seen - or at least the best one I think in hitting the right points:



Like the article points out it was more the backwards patriarchal cultural crap that led to this than religion, it's just that many seem over eager to point the finger at religion in this case

PS> For the political watchers down south: did Huckabee really say that? Because wow

Of course it's cultural, but oftentimes, religion and culture are almost indistinguishable. Headgear (for men AND for women), for example, may not officially officially be part of a religion, but it's still considered part of a religion by certain cultures. I could start a religion that says "everyone must be well-fed" and years down the line certain people from this religion are very overweight, because they believe that being "well fed" means they need to eat a lot. Others may interpret "well-fed" as just eating well and eating enough.

Anyway, I'm surprised no one has compared any of this to Warren Jeffs/Bountiful, B.C. I just don't want people to see this case as just another child abuse/domestic abuse/violence against women case, because cultural misunderstanding may very well have played a role in Aqsa's death (unlike say, the Pickton case) In Canada, many of the higher profile victims in violence against women cases in larger cities, especially those involving a spouse or blood relative, involve either immigrant women/women whose parents are immigrants.

By the way, the girl's brother gets bail.
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:14 PM
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By the way, the girl's brother gets bail.
Ugh. At least the father's still in jail.
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:13 PM
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In Canada, many of the higher profile victims in violence against women cases in larger cities, especially those involving a spouse or blood relative, involve either immigrant women/women whose parents are immigrants.
It's a shame then that the statistics don't bear that out - if anything they point to a higher incidence of spousal abuse and homicide amongst the native populations in the Territories than that of the most heavily immigrant regions of Canada:

http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepu...XIE2007000.pdf
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:48 PM
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It's a shame then that the statistics don't bear that out - if anything they point to a higher incidence of spousal abuse and homicide amongst the native populations in the Territories than that of the most heavily immigrant regions of Canada:

http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepu...XIE2007000.pdf

It's the lack of social services geared towards the population, I'd think. For native and many immigrant populations, standard/mainstream programs don't always work.
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