Why Haze!!

[bowsandtoes]

I've read most of the big threads on the first page and it seems there are two parties, one that sees the benefits of hazing and one that sees it as the end of the world.

Our school administration has been adamantly anti-hazing but the big chapters still do it because they know how crucial it is to a chapter's continued survival and success.

And by hazing, I mean a combination of putting someone in a physical/mental stressful situation (ie. lineups), and forcing pledges to adhere to a set of standards (a dress code, working on builds, cleaning the house/apartments, giving rides, etc.)

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

I've read most of the big threads on the first page and it seems there are two parties, one that sees the benefits of hazing and one that sees it as the end of the world.

Our school administration has been adamantly anti-hazing but the big chapters still do it because they know how crucial it is to a chapter's continued survival and success.

And by hazing, I mean a combination of putting someone in a physical/mental stressful situation (ie. lineups), and forcing pledges to adhere to a set of standards (a dress code, working on builds, cleaning the house/apartments, giving rides, etc.)

Third point of view: There's a lot of stuff marked now as "hazing" that really shouldn't be, but it is because certain individuals or chapters have taken it to the extreme and people have gotten hurt and/or killed. Because of that the rules have changed, AND we should follow the rules and values of our national organizations.

I also don't think hazing is necessary or crucial and there are other ways to build bonds between members. Even if the hazing rules limit some of the beneficial things that chapters can do, there are plenty of other things that can be done.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Third point of view: There's a lot of stuff marked now as "hazing" that really shouldn't be, but it is because certain individuals or chapters have taken it to the extreme and people have gotten hurt and/or killed. Because of that the rules have changed, AND we should follow the rules and values of our national organizations.

I also don't think hazing is necessary or crucial and there are other ways to build bonds between members. Even if the hazing rules limit some of the beneficial things that chapters can do, there are plenty of other things that can be done.

Very well written and said.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

I've read most of the big threads on the first page and it seems there are two parties, one that sees the benefits of hazing and one that sees it as the end of the world.

Our school administration has been adamantly anti-hazing but the big chapters still do it because they know how crucial it is to a chapter's continued survival and success.

And by hazing, I mean a combination of putting someone in a physical/mental stressful situation (ie. lineups), and forcing pledges to adhere to a set of standards (a dress code, working on builds, cleaning the house/apartments, giving rides, etc.)

Just have to wonder now how your definitions as well as what you report as "on going" activities at UT match up with any of the following laws, regulations and results in TX:
http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/eve...Memorandum.pdf
http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/gle...n-Summer05.pdf
http://www.stophazing.org/laws/tx_law.htm