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12-03-2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DGTess
In what state is it legal to shoot for property in someone else's home?
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From this article:
"Texas law allows people to use deadly force to protect themselves if it is reasonable to believe they could otherwise be killed. In limited circumstances, people also can use deadly force to protect their neighbor's property; for example, if a homeowner asks a neighbor to watch over his property while he's out of town.
The question will be whether it was reasonable for Horn to fear the men and whether his earlier threats on the 911 call showed he planned to kill them no matter what, said Fred Moss, who teaches criminal law at Southern Methodist University.
"That's what makes it so hard and that's why we have juries," Moss said."
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12-03-2007, 08:14 PM
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Whew..I thought it was Joe Horn, the football player.
You go Joe...I wished you lived next door to me when my house got robbed 2 years ago.....
"Horn's supporters parked motorcycles along the block Sunday and jeered protesters who called for Horn to be prosecuted. The supporters waved American flags and hoisted signs reading, "We love our neighbor for protecting our neighbors" and "Burglary is a risky business." "
and if you think that's crazy...see what breaking into someone's home for marijuana will get you:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...r_N.htm?csp=34
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12-04-2007, 02:20 PM
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I'm here in Houston where it happpend and we get almost hourly updates on this case.
The issue I think is not so much about race, but as a citizen protecting property, did he cross the line? From the 911 call, he did not seem to be directly threatened by the men and when cautioned by the 911 operator not to shoot, he still shot anyway.
I think in a legal sense Joe Horn was wrong because he did not have to do it, but morally he was protecting his neighbor.
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12-04-2007, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
I'm here in Houston where it happpend and we get almost hourly updates on this case.
The issue I think is not so much about race, but as a citizen protecting property, did he cross the line? From the 911 call, he did not seem to be directly threatened by the men and when cautioned by the 911 operator not to shoot, he still shot anyway.
I think in a legal sense Joe Horn was wrong because he did not have to do it, but morally he was protecting his neighbor.
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I so agree...he was instructed by the 911 ops NOT TO SHOOT....he never came to harm, his life was never threatened.
The most he should have done was put down th gun and shoot with a camera.
The cops arrived right when the suspects were fleeing the scene, they probably could have caught them
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07-01-2008, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nittanyalum
From this article:
"Texas law allows people to use ly force to protect themselves if it is reasonable to believe they could otherwise be killed. In limited circumstances, people also can use ly force to protect their neighbor's property; for example, if a homeowner asks a neighbor to watch over his property while he's out of town.
The question will be whether it was reasonable for Horn to fear the men and whether his earlier threats on the 911 call showed he planned to no matter what, said Fred Moss, who teaches criminal law at Southern Methodist University.
"That's what makes it so hard and that's why we have juries," Moss said."
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Joe Horn is a redneck and he belongs in jail. It was obvious from the 911 call that Horn planned on $hooting the burglars. Horn was not in any danger. The burglars were shot in the back.
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07-01-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax
Joe Horn is a redneck and he belongs in jail. It was obvious from the 911 call that Horn planned on the burglars. Horn was not in any danger. The burglars were shot in the back.
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This is everything thats wrong with America. How can you honestly sympathize with these criminals? It would take a "redneck" to care enough about your neighbors to risk your life for them. He even says that he barely knows them. The man is a hero, not a villain.
Whatever, have fun voting for Obama, hippie.
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07-02-2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
This is everything thats wrong with America. How can you honestly sympathize with these criminals? It would take a "redneck" to care enough about your neighbors to risk your life for them. He even says that he barely knows them. The man is a hero, not a villain.
Whatever, have fun voting for Obama, hippie.
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Sympathize? If you want to call it that, then I sympathize because I am not a redneck from Texas. If someone steals a "TV" or whatever they stole they should get the standard punishemt for stealing a TV. I would guess the standard punishment would involve jail. Getting shot in the back is excessive.
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