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Old 11-16-2007, 08:43 PM
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Sorry to bring politics even more into it, but this is an example of why our invasion of Iraq, and our relations with the whole Middle East, has gone so poorly. These countries are ruled by Islamic Law, not civil law. We don't understand their culture because we don't LIVE our religions the way they do. In the Islamic world, where women are NOT equal to men and other religions are evil, our secular way of doing things is not acceptable. Don't try to apply our reasoning to their laws and culture - it's way beyond that. Just be glad that you don't live there.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:07 PM
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Apparently this was not the case....


Monet...think about it...in the 21st century we now have lists of sexual predators, we have people who get locked up for getting a BJ which seemed totally innocent(reminder...Glenarlow and company were unchaperoned...) ...kids that are disappearing and later turning up raped if not dead...we have women going to visit so called internet buddies who get abused and raped and this is here in the 'civilized' US of A....so where is the civility here? Where is the enlightenment that people can get to co mingle and nothing will happen....remember less than a hundred years ago, there was an unspoken rule right here in this good ol' US of A that when a man went courting a woman, he sat there in full view of family (of course we know that this didn't always happen and if they were caught, there was dire consequences...but I digress) and in practice, the only time they were alone was after they married.
The fact is rape anywhere is about power, NOT about defiling one's sexual innocence, or morals.

The girl was 18 years old. Old enough to bear children, but not old enough to know the difference. The men who raped her were probably family friends that she grew up with who she never thought would violate her humanity like that.

Things in the US are bad because for any number of reasons. Media hype, more awareness, ignorance and inability to tell right from wrong, GEEZUS, whatever. The fact is, something was taking from a girl without consent to overpower her.

A cold strict code will NOT stop someone from abusing power by punishing the victim. It will only keep people ignorant rather than evolved. People can do better.

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These countries are ruled by Islamic Law, not civil law. We don't understand their culture because we don't LIVE our religions the way they do. In the Islamic world, where women are NOT equal to men and other religions are evil, our secular way of doing things is not acceptable. Don't try to apply our reasoning to their laws and culture - it's way beyond that. Just be glad that you don't live there.
Let me put it to you this way, even the Imam's know they are going to have to upgrade their belief systems because large masses of people are dying in these countries due to public health reasons.

Now they can be pissed off about it and suffer, but they are realizing folks are tired of them. Even the royalty is freaking out and the change the politicking as much as they can, however, we tire of it. Also, the Chinese government who are larger consumers now are not as forgiving as we were...
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:24 AM
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Don't try to apply our reasoning to their laws and culture - it's way beyond that. Just be glad that you don't live there.
Exactly.
If you guys want to read an excellent book, Read "Princess" by Jean Sasson. It will make you very thankful that you live in North America.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:23 PM
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If you guys want to read an excellent book, Read "Princess" by Jean Sasson. It will make you very thankful that you live in North America.
Reading "Princess" and the sequels is one of the few ways I could come to grips with a sorority sister's "honor killing". Sarai's Story She wasn't a princess, but at least I better understood the culture which allowed this to happen.
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