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11-01-2007, 01:54 AM
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Who is the genius that wakes up one day and says "You know what? I'm gonna tell my congregation to picket funerals of soldiers because I thing homosexuality is uber-wrong"
I swear...mishandled religion is by far the most destructive force on Earth.
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11-01-2007, 08:26 AM
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11-01-2007, 08:52 AM
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these people disgust me and they should be thrown in jail. they make me sick.
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11-01-2007, 10:05 AM
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Who is the genius that wakes up one day and says "You know what? I'm gonna tell my congregation to picket funerals of soldiers because I thing homosexuality is uber-wrong"
I swear...mishandled religion is by far the most destructive force on Earth.
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I'm not religious, I never have been... but things like this make me so unbelievably sick. How can people be so..... awful?
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11-01-2007, 10:23 AM
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11-01-2007, 11:06 AM
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I'm not religious, I never have been... but things like this make me so unbelievably sick. How can people be so..... awful?
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I am religious, and always have been. It makes me beyond sick, seeing my religion perverted in this way.
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11-01-2007, 11:15 AM
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Even though I am anti-war, I think what the church did was entirely disrespectful. What kind of character does that show?
If they wanted to protest, let it be peaceful, and not to disturb any family's private moments.
How would they like it if I crashed their Pre-Life demonstration by pulling their little white crosses out of the groud? Oops, I did that one already.
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11-01-2007, 11:38 AM
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How would they like it if I crashed their Pre-Life demonstration by pulling their little white crosses out of the groud? Oops, I did that one already.
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Nice. 
It amazes me that someone hasn't beaten Fred Phelps to a bloody pulp yet.
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11-01-2007, 11:40 AM
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Benzgirl, you are comparing apples to oranges.
Picketing a private funeral - reprehensible.They are invading a function which is religious and private.
Pulling up white crosses put up as a peaceful protest against abortion - unless the crosses were put up on public land or your yard (!), you are infringing on their protest - perhaps trespassing. It would be the same thing if they tore a pro-abortion sign down from your property - I'd say they were wrong, too.
I am perplexed by those who want to destroy the message of their opponents. Refute it, yes - but silence it? That's not the American way!
Free speech means even awful people can say what they want, but they can't say it in a way that disrupts or disturbs others' rights. As reprehensible as the group's message is, they must have the right to say it. Just not at funerals.
And we have the right to say we find them disgraceful. Thank goodness justice was done.
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11-01-2007, 11:51 AM
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^^^ Very well said. It is apple and oranges and it's counterproductive. Remember Voltaire ("Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too") and Evelyn Beatrice Hall's paraphrase of him ("I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.")
It's also childish.  I prefer not to fight idiocy with immaturity -- it pulls me down to their level.
Besides, they'd probably welcome someone tearing up their crosses -- it just gets them more publicity.
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11-01-2007, 01:55 PM
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I'm so incredibly happy that Phelps was fined, I could pee myself. I'm a Christian, and I find how he distorts the religion and spews hatred like this totally sick.
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11-01-2007, 12:32 PM
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Pulling up white crosses put up as a peaceful protest against abortion - unless the crosses were put up on public land or your yard (!), you are infringing on their protest - perhaps trespassing. It would be the same thing if they tore a pro-abortion sign down from your property - I'd say they were wrong, too.
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To clarify....
There was land between a church and a townhouse that I owned. Most people at the church thought the land belonged to them. It was owned by a close family member and I was responsible for cutting the grass and keeping it clean. I could have charged THEM with trespassing, however I chose to make my statement non-destructive. I discussed the situation -- trespassing and their freedom of speach -- with their pastor and also received a formal apology from the church.
Back to the real story.......... $2.9mm was not nearly enough to cover what the Snyders have been through
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11-01-2007, 12:19 PM
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I am religious, and always have been. It makes me beyond sick, seeing my religion perverted in this way.
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Sorry MysticCat, i shouldn't have put it that way. I suppose those two things don't have much to do with each other (whether i'm religious or not) and I guess I should preface by saying that some people in my family were religious zealots and I was exposed to beliefs that were just bizarre... so I find myself retreating or rejecting religion because of prior experience, when I know that this isn't always the case and I've learning to embrace some things over time. 
Either way, its awful that they would be using a funeral to picket for a cause... that doesn't really make much sense in the first place. Those poor families and shame on them!
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11-01-2007, 01:09 PM
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Sorry MysticCat, i shouldn't have put it that way.
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No problem. I didn't really take it as a slam or anything -- I was just offering the parallel viewpoint, so to speak.
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Thanks for the clarification -- much different situation than what I, at least, assumed. (And yes, I know what it makes of me when I "assume."  )
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11-02-2007, 11:36 AM
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This church was way out of line and what they did showed the utmost disrespect. Everyone has a right to agree or disagree with the war, Iraq, etc., but please show respect to those who have gone over there to preserve our freedom and way of life.
I'm just curious as to who they think will protect the U.S if we don't?!?!?! 
I pray that church sees what they are doing is wrong and stop spewing propaganda to impressionable youth.
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