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10-24-2007, 02:02 PM
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I have an ex-sister who is still a friend who transferred shortly after initiating. She was very unhappy with my chapter and wanted nothing to do with them after she transferred schools. Now she went through recruitment with some friends at her new school with no intention on taking a bid or even expecting one. Strangely enough, she fell in love with one chapter and they extended her a bid. She badly wanted to take it and asked me for counsel.
I told her there probably wasn't any way they could find out but it is a small world and something could slip. She postponed her bid a semester, disaffiliated from my sorority (apparently a very easy process) and was prepared to take the bid but then changed her mind because nursing is such a demanding major. So I think it's possible as long as you're careful. It may be a small world but when your old chapter doesn't speak to her anymore, that's one big hurdle. She probably could have pulled it off but she would have been living a lie. However she's my friend so I told her I'd support her no matter what after telling her all of the above.
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10-24-2007, 02:33 PM
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I'm pretty sure that even despite disaffiliation, you couldn't join another NPC chapter. I always thought it was about witnessing two groups' initiations and learning two groups' secrets...? Besides, like everyone else has said, it's a small world, made even smaller by the internet.
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10-24-2007, 02:37 PM
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I have a sister from my chapter whose God-Child went to a school many states over and pledged our sorority. My friend was so excited, attended initiation, the whole nine yards. She rarely saw the family, after many years in different states. The next year the girl moved to a mid-west school where our chapter did not suit her "needs" and went through "rush" and pledged another group of which she became president. The God-mother was clueless to any of this. It was hidden from her by the girl and her mother. Somehow in a conversation the mother let it slip. You can imagine how devistated my friend was. I am not for sure what she finally did about. She may have reported it to our National organization. I didn't have the heart to ask her what she finally decided to do.
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10-24-2007, 03:16 PM
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Quick question: If you are initiated by ABC national sorority and then your membership is terminated you couldn't re-rush and pledge another national sorority correct?
My reason for asking is that this thread got me wondering if my knowledge on this would be correct in case anyone is wondering :-).
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10-24-2007, 03:19 PM
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Quick question: If you are initiated by ABC national sorority and then your membership is terminated you couldn't re-rush and pledge another national sorority correct?
My reason for asking is that this thread got me wondering if my knowledge on this would be correct in case anyone is wondering :-).
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Quick response: Correct, you cannot join another NPC group after already being initiated by another NPC group.
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10-24-2007, 08:15 PM
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SURE ENOUGH!! As soon as I decided to ask this question out of curiosity ---I knew it, I knew it that someone was going to question my sincerity which is why i threw in the disclaimer. If you must know--this is why I asked the question--I was out to lunch with a group of my friends whose daughters all went to different schools this fall as freshman and pledged different sororities. All of us are so pleased with the choices that our daughters made especially me. My daughter is thrilled with her sorority and her school and will be there for all four years. As we shared our daughter's rush stories with each other--someone brought up the question about dual memberships. Ergo--my curiosity. Nothing more Nothing more. I appreciate you asking me politely.
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It's an interesting conversation topic. I had wondered if NPC had a database of all members that could be cross-checked with PNMs at every campus, but apparently not. I think irishpipes would be good for the job.
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10-25-2007, 08:07 PM
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There's a girl that went to my school and was in a chapter here, and then transferred her sophomore year and joined a different sorority. My impression is that no one told her it was against the rules, because she seems to still be on good terms with her pledge sisters here.
As much as it comes up, I don't think collegiate members are well informed as far as NPC rules and trying to join other groups. I say this because there have been countless times when members of several different sororities have talked about transferring and rushing again, and they argue with me that they can join a different sorority.
I've also heard confusion about the one year rule. Somehow the "you cannot pledge another sorority on your campus for one year after you have received a bid but not been initiatied" gets translated into "if you wait a year you can join a different sorority" in some people's minds.
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10-25-2007, 08:19 PM
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As much as it comes up, I don't think collegiate members are well informed as far as NPC rules and trying to join other groups. I say this because there have been countless times when members of several different sororities have talked about transferring and rushing again, and they argue with me that they can join a different sorority.
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This may be right. Years ago sororities had long enough pledge periods that you could learn your own rules/culture/history/ethics and learn the panhellenic as well. Of course, that was when some schools could still just have panhel as an information resource; they didn't run things.
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I know this is heresy but I see nothing wrong if someone were to transfer to another college that either did not have a chapter of her GLO or the local chapter at her new school would not accept her as a member if she resigned from her GLO and joined another. There is no harm to anyone. People change schools, jobs, religions, husbands and even countries all the time. Same school I understand but a different one I don't. Its an antiquated rule that should be changed.
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10-25-2007, 09:41 PM
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Its an antiquated rule that should be changed.
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No, it shouldn't.
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10-25-2007, 09:52 PM
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No, it shouldn't. What she said. And 33Girl made a good point about Locals vs NPC orgs. I couldn't imagine wanting to pledge somewhere else after being a full member of Zeta - that just seems insane to me.
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10-25-2007, 10:15 PM
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I know this is heresy but I see nothing wrong if someone were to transfer to another college that either did have a chapter of her GLO or the local chapter at her new school would not accept her as a member if she resigned from her GLO and joined another. There is no harm to anyone. People change schools, jobs, religions, husbands and even countries all the time. Same school I understand but a different one I don't. Its an antiquated rule that should be changed.
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Then what is the point of loyalty and vows? If you can just change sororities as is convenient for you, then do your vows really mean anything? Our chapters are not clubs that one can join and leave as one pleases. That's why there is a 6-8 week period where new members are able to decide if they are able to make the lifetime commitment of joining a sorority.
What I CAN understand is missing the sorority experience. I would think that a good alternative would be for transfers (to schools without their sorority) being allowed to be involved with the school's Panhellenic Association.
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SthrnZeta - You might feel differently if you were to transfer to a college with a Zeta chapter only to be told they wanted nothing to do with you. It does happen, more than any of us would like to admit.
violetpretty - Being involved in the Panhel Association is not much of a subtitute for actually being in a sorority.
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10-25-2007, 10:38 PM
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I understand the reasons behind shorter pledge periods, however, unless education of new members continues after initiation, I fear this trend will continue. I think Chi Omega has a different approach, which I really like. I understand, at least a one school in my state, they have a longer new member period than most which extends over the semester allowing new members more time to bond with their sorority. ( I'm new to greek chat and may be totally off topic) I agree with violetpretty, loyalty and vows have got to stand for something. This is not a club.
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10-25-2007, 10:47 PM
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There is no harm to anyone. People change schools, jobs, religions, husbands and even countries all the time. Same school I understand but a different one I don't. Its an antiquated rule that should be changed.
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Then what is the point of loyalty and vows? If you can just change sororities as is convenient for you, then do your vows really mean anything? Our chapters are not clubs that one can join and leave as one pleases. That's why there is a 6-8 week period where new members are able to decide if they are able to make the lifetime commitment of joining a sorority.
What I CAN understand is missing the sorority experience. I would think that a good alternative would be for transfers (to schools without their sorority) being allowed to be involved with the school's Panhellenic Association.
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THIS.
Not every female student joins a sorority. No one will die without it. There's no freedom of "sorority" There's nothing stopping her from joining a local, service, honor, or community sorority, nor from joining other community or school organizations. There are other options besides the NPCs out there including alum chapters of your org.
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