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10-18-2007, 05:50 PM
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Brothers, re-read our history. Alpha Phi Omega was FOUNDED by folks who were already involved in a NIC Fraternity. So, if someone wants to come to APO after being NIC, NPC, or NPHC, as long as they meet the requirements of that individual chapter to become a Brother - and they want to work and be of Service, so be it! I've been involved with a variety of chapters, and have had APO Brothers who've been NIC/NPC/NPHC as well as Alpha Phi Omega, and there has not been an issue. Several times, I've seen the APO Chapter President also be involved in another GLO, and it has not hurt the APO chapter; in fact, it gave the chapter more opportunities to cooperate and collaborate on service projects!
As long as a student can balance all their involvements *AND* their classwork, more power to him or her. As one of our former Presidents said, we should have "more Brothers on more campuses doing more service."
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10-18-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Quala67
Brothers, re-read our history. Alpha Phi Omega was FOUNDED by folks who were already involved in a NIC Fraternity.
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Eight of the fourteen including Frank Reed Horton were Sigma Alpha Epsilon, and Five were Krescents, a local Fraternity that joined Kappa Delta Rho within a couple of years after APO was founded. (And one Independent).
Many of the early (first 10 years) Alpha Phi Omega chapters when their charterings were reported in the fraternity magazine (Torch and Trefoil) reported which NIC fraternities were represented among their membership.
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As long as a student can balance all their involvements *AND* their classwork, more power to him or her. As one of our former Presidents said, we should have "more Brothers on more campuses doing more service."
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And I *certainly* would not recommend pledging both Alpha Phi Omega and a Social GLO in the same semester. Some things are just too ugly for words.
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10-18-2007, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quala67
Brothers, re-read our history. Alpha Phi Omega was FOUNDED by folks who were already involved in a NIC Fraternity. So, if someone wants to come to APO after being NIC, NPC, or NPHC, as long as they meet the requirements of that individual chapter to become a Brother - and they want to work and be of Service, so be it!
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My point exactly: At many campuses the requirements are so simple and loosely enforced, the prospective's desire to work and be of service can oftentimes be illusionary. I am glad I came into APO at an all-male school, because quite honestly, if it was anywhere else, I would've pimped the system, got my letters, and left. Real talk. There would've been no challenge to get the letters, and no incentive to stay active once I got them. And all too often, that is an avenue that many college students often exploit because the chapters allow them to.
As far as fellowship and brotherhood bonding (and membership retention for that matter), what separates Alpha Phi Omega from Circle K?
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11-20-2007, 05:19 AM
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[QUOTE=KAPital PHINUst;1539181]I am glad I came into APO at an all-male school, because quite honestly, if it was anywhere else, I would've pimped the system, got my letters, and left. Real talk. There would've been no challenge to get the letters, and no incentive to stay active once I got them. And all too often, that is an avenue that many college students often exploit because the chapters allow them to.
IF you pledged at a school with an all male chapter, you can't really speak on what happens in a co-ed chapter can you? You don't really know what our requirements are do you?
People have to remember that Alpha Phi Omega stands alone and we do what we do. I do not advocate Brothers pledging and then leaving, but I see too many people trying to treat APO like a social GLO and we ARE NOT. Stop trying to make APO what it is not. If you have a problem with how retention effors in chapters are going, then be a positive role model and make suggestions on how we can retain the Brothers once they become members.
To answer your initial post, I know several brothers who pledged NPHC first and APO second. The reasons varied...one person thought it was cool to be in a sorority and a fraternity, one person did it because a lot of their friends were members or APO/dated someone in APO. One pro would be you know that they are not trying to use APO as a stairstep into another org, they are familar with pledging, and if they are dedicated to their first org hopefully, they will be dedicated to our org. Cons include the pledge trying to compare APO's process to their old process and make changes that DON'T work in APO, them not taking APO as serious, not being able to effectively dedicate time to both.
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