Pre nuptual Agreement...?

DSTCHAOS · #1 10-18-2007, 10:16 AM

She probably isn't, and will not be, making enough money for a prenuptial agreement to be necessary. A lot of people talk prenup to overestimate their income and wealth reality or potential, and also as a way of being a complete self-important asshole.

As far as I'm concerned, prenuptial agreements are for substantial income and wealth differentials in which people want to agree to a set distribution if things don't work out. It is unfortunate that people are looking forward to things not working out. But, the prenup shouldn't be applied to people who are just breaking 100K-200K a year but have no wealth accumulated. That's still a paycheck from broke, as far as I'm concerned. Some people are even obnoxious enough to do a prenup because they make 80K a year and their future spouse makes 50K--making more than someone who makes a relatively small amount isn't a substantial enough income differential for a prenup.

Now as for splitting up the property, although I still think prenups are a sucky concept, that makes more sense. But not if they only have 1 house that neither owned before getting married. Only if there is substantial property to be broken up--especially a house that's worth more than 100K. I think couples need to see what the nature of their breakup is before assuming that the person with all the money and property is not going to be the reason for the breakup--i.e. infedility.

DaemonSeid · #2 10-18-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

She probably isn't, and will not be, making enough money for a prenuptial agreement to be necessary. A lot of people talk prenup to overestimate their income and wealth reality or potential, and also as a way of being a complete self-important asshole.

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You know what they say about assuming....and actually she does make more than enough that a pre nup probably wouldn't be a bad idea.

And again...it was HIS idea....so in my eyes...he was far from being a 'self important asshole'

let's face it...in this day and age...marriages don't last like they used to and divorce proceedings sometimes last longer than the marriage. And they tend to bring the ugliness out of people...at least I think they are looking at reality on both ends and trying to find a way thru should they have to go down that road.

No one should ever have to think about going down that road but with a 50/50 chance that you might, get it on the table and pack a canteen.....

MysticCat · #3 10-18-2007, 10:48 AM

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No one should ever have to think about going down that road but with a 50/50 chance that you might, get it on the table and pack a canteen.....

I think their chances are actually better than 50/50. I know that the "50% of all marriages end in divorce" statistic gets thrown around a lot, but even if it is accurate, you have to remember that it includes people like my friend who is on his fourth marriage. Between him and me as it currently stands, 60% of all marriages end in divorce.

I think the odds on a first marriage are indeed better than 50/50.

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AlphaFrog · #4 10-18-2007, 10:53 AM

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I think their chances are actually better than 50/50. I know that the "50% of all marriages end in divorce" statistic gets thrown around a lot, but even if it is accurate, you have to remember that it includes people like my friend who is on his fourth marriage. Between him and me as it currently stands, 60% of all marriages end in divorce.

I think the odds on a first marriage are indeed better than 50/50.

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Very true. My aunt's got her claws sunk in to #5. Well, actually marriage #5, but guy #4. She married and divorced the same guy twice.

Benzgirl · #5 10-18-2007, 02:46 PM

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Very true. My aunt's got her claws sunk in to #5. Well, actually marriage #5, but guy #4. She married and divorced the same guy twice.

We must be related! My aunt is a serial bride. Actualy, guy 2 and 3 were the same.

DaemonSeid · #6 10-18-2007, 02:49 PM

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We must be related! My aunt is a serial bride. Actualy, guy 2 and 3 were the same.

how about one of my friends has been married 5 times.....

got married to number 5 last year

and she is just turning 40......

Hmmm....I need to call and se if she is still marrried...I got a bet running

really...I do.

Benzgirl · #7 10-18-2007, 03:30 PM

I have always said there should be a law after 2. Everyone is allowed one mistake, but 3, 4, 5 mistakes! Come on, we are not all Liz Taylor.

honeychile · #8 10-19-2007, 01:42 PM

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and she is just turning 40......

Hmmm....I need to call and se if she is still marrried...I got a bet running

really...I do.

You'll love how I told my little that I was getting a divorce, then. She had moved, and I was in her city, so I gave her a call and asked, "Hey, who took the bets on how long our marriage would last?" She protested, and I responded, "I know someone did - we've always done that." Again, she protested, so I said, "Look, K, we may have a winner...."

DaemonSeid · #9 10-18-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think their chances are actually better than 50/50. I know that the "50% of all marriages end in divorce" statistic gets thrown around a lot, but even if it is accurate, you have to remember that it includes people like my friend who is on his fourth marriage. Between him and me as it currently stands, 60% of all marriages end in divorce.

I think the odds on a first marriage are indeed better than 50/50.

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as long as they have been together and all that they have been thru...I personally hope they are that one couple that stays together...period....hehehe

honeychile · #10 10-18-2007, 11:40 AM

All well and good, but the last statistics I saw showed that 80% of couples who live together over a year prior to marriage end up divorced. I really would have thought it was the other way around.

I'd go for the pre-nup, and not limit it. Donald Trump limited his pre-nup to Marla Maples to five years, and he filed with one month left of the five years. It's always better to know where you stand before a marriage before the family law attornies ending up with ALL of the money!

DSTCHAOS · #11 10-18-2007, 02:17 PM

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and actually she does make more than enough that a pre nup probably wouldn't be a bad idea.

If you insist. My points stand.

DaemonSeid · #12 10-18-2007, 02:25 PM

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If you insist. My points stand.

yeah and thank u for ur 2 cents.......

DSTCHAOS · #13 10-18-2007, 03:44 PM

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yeah and thank u for ur 2 cents.......

You started the thread.

Blacksocialite · #14 10-18-2007, 03:49 PM

I think that pre-nups are a good thing.

It's important to establish ownership of property/items acquired before the marriage so that in the event the relationship goes sour, only items acquired during the marriage are taken into consideration as "joint property."

Unfortunately, I seen some beautiful, romantic relationships turn super ugly within years where the couple starts fighting over everything.

A pre-nup can also protect a spouse from garnishment of wages in the case of child support. I know a few ladies who are playing child support because the 'baby's mama' took the man back to court when he got married.

So, the court took the entire household income into consideration when establishing child support payments. Now those ladies wished that they had a legal agreement with their spouses in terms of what they were financially willing to folk over for their step-children.

DaemonSeid · #15 10-18-2007, 03:58 PM

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I think that pre-nups are a good thing.

It's important to establish ownership of property/items acquired before the marriage so that in the event the relationship goes sour, only items acquired during the marriage are taken into consideration as "joint property."

Unfortunately, I seen some beautiful, romantic relationships turn super ugly within years where the couple starts fighting over everything.

A pre-nup can also protect a spouse from garnishment of wages in the case of child support. I know a few ladies who are playing child support because the 'baby's mama' took the man back to court when he got married.

So, the court took the entire household income into consideration when establishing child support payments. Now those ladies wished that they had a legal agreement with their spouses in terms of what they were financially willing to folk over for their step-children.

In some places, there have been court rulings where, say the one who has other children they are paying child support for dies, the surviving spouse would legally have to take over and pay.

I need to find that article...