A question for state schoolers

[Glitter650]

My school is one of two in the system that is simply (city) State University The others are all Cali State UNiversity @ (city) I've heard this is because the first two were founded before the whole system was formalized into the California State University system. They also DID just change the name of California State University Hayward to "California State University East Bay"
I personally didn't really like this name change, but it was done to "better reflect the geographic location the students represent == shrugs==


All the University of California are University of California at (city) but that is a completely different system. =)

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Glitter650

My school is one of two in the system that is simply (city) State University The others are all Cali State UNiversity @ (city) I've heard this is because the first two were founded before the whole system was formalized into the California State University system. They also DID just change the name of California State University Hayward to "California State University East Bay"
I personally didn't really like this name change, but it was done to "better reflect the geographic location the students represent == shrugs==


All the University of California are University of California at (city) but that is a completely different system. =)

slightly off-topic, but i have this argument with my boss ALL THE TIME. are there levels of "prestige" within the UC system? For example, UCLA and Berkeley are pretty up there, and others are... not? My boss says theyre all the same cause theye state schools (to which i say, well they all have their own administration and student bodies). but then he says all the SUNY schools (NY's state school system) are different because theyre "in different locations."

clearly hes an idiot - but i will say, IMO, the SUNYs dont have much prestige amongst each other (though im sure Albany, Binghamton and Buffalo, Old West and Stonybrook get more play than say, SUNY Plattsburgh, Onieda and Potsdam)

side note: this is why it would piss me off when the actors on Felicity would refer to NYU as "University of NY," cause umm... NYU =/= SUNY.

[Glitter650]

Originally Posted by tld221

slightly off-topic, but i have this argument with my boss ALL THE TIME. are there levels of "prestige" within the UC system? For example, UCLA and Berkeley are pretty up there, and others are... not? My boss says theyre all the same cause theye state schools (to which i say, well they all have their own administration and student bodies). but then he says all the SUNY schools (NY's state school system) are different because theyre "in different locations."

clearly hes an idiot - but i will say, IMO, the SUNYs dont have much prestige amongst each other (though im sure Albany, Binghamton and Buffalo, Old West and Stonybrook get more play than say, SUNY Plattsburgh, Onieda and Potsdam)

side note: this is why it would piss me off when the actors on Felicity would refer to NYU as "University of NY," cause umm... NYU =/= SUNY.

Oh yeah there's levels of prestige... I mean yeah they are all state schools, but Berkeley and UCLA are amongst the top "state" universities in the country, so they def. carry more prestige as they are harder to get into, and receive more applications.
I don't know how true this is anymore, but I know that Santa Cruz, and Riverside, and now I'm sure Merced are usually able to pretty much "guranantee" anyone UC eligble (meaning their GPA and SAT scores, are within range on a sliding scale like the Higher your SAT score the lower your GPA can be and vice versa, and you've taken the requesite HS courses) would get in.

There is also some hierarchy amongst the State University system as well, althogh not as pronounded I'd say, with Cal Poly San Luis Obispo leading the way there.


Navane,
I did forget about those other (city) state University Schools, I was just tryign to point out it's not the norm, as there are only 5 named that way out of like 22 or 23 campuses.

[navane]

Originally Posted by Glitter650

My school is one of two in the system that is simply (city) State University The others are all Cali State UNiversity @ (city)

Cal States? There are 5 of 23 which don't use the "CSU-City Name" and use "City Name State University" instead:

Humboldt State University
San Diego State University
San Francisco State University
San Jose State University
Sonoma State University

For what's it's worth, when I was an undergrad at CSU-Long Beach, there was a question brought before the students are to whether or not to officially change the name to "Long Beach State University". The measure was voted down. We did, however, officially vote in the 'previously unofficial' school colors of black and gold.

Originally Posted by bejazd

If yuu're from Long Beach or west Orange County, "State" means Long Beach State. In San Diego, "State" means San Diego State

I don't know if things were different before or after I went there (mid-late 1990s), but I never heard anyone call CSULB "State" and I lived in Long Beach for 7 years. We called it "The Beach". Though, here in San Diego, "State" most definitely refers to SDSU.

Go Beach!

.....Kelly

[bejazd]

Originally Posted by navane

For what's it's worth, when I was an undergrad at CSU-Long Beach, there was a question brought before the students are to whether or not to officially change the name to "Long Beach State University". The measure was voted down. We did, however, officially vote in the 'previously unofficial' school colors of black and gold.

I don't know if things were different before or after I went there (mid-late 1990s), but I never heard anyone call CSULB "State" and I lived in Long Beach for 7 years. We called it "The Beach". Though, here in San Diego, "State" most definitely refers to SDSU.

The locals definitely call CSULB "State. " As opposed to City...y'know, the University of Carson&Clark?!!! I wondered when they officially changed the colors...there was a proposal in the 80's to change the mascot and the colors to something more "ocean" themed but nobody really liked the idea! I think they started selling all the "Beach State" stuff about that time but it took a little while to catch on...Kelly, do you know when the baseball team adopted Dirtbags as their nickname?

[navane]

Originally Posted by bejazd

The locals definitely call CSULB "State. "

Hrm...that must be new as I've never heard it! Of course, I last lived in Long Beach in 2002!

As opposed to City...y'know, the University of Carson&Clark?!!!

LOL....we called it "Bunny State U"!

I wonder if they ever did get rid of all of the feral rabbits....

I wondered when they officially changed the colors...there was a proposal in the 80's to change the mascot and the colors to something more "ocean" themed but nobody really liked the idea! I think they started selling all the "Beach State" stuff about that time but it took a little while to catch on...

I don't know anything about "ocean colors"; but, I actually started noticing clothing and items which said "Beach" or "Go Beach" right around 1997-98 or so. We have former University President Dr. Robert Maxson to thank for that. He popularized the phrase, "Go Beach!"

Kelly, do you know when the baseball team adopted Dirtbags as their nickname?

1989.

"The unofficial nickname of Long Beach State 49er baseball team refers to the program’s style of play and success against higher profile programs. The moniker was first coined for Coach Snow’s first team in 1989 which was comprised of nearly all new players. Playing without a home field (LBCC, Cerritos JC and Blair Field), and practicing at a local all-dirt Pony Field, that team won its first 18 games and advanced to the 49ers first College World Series appearance. Then-infield coach Dave Malpass would take his infielders to the all-dirt field for their rigorous workout. The infielders would return to the regular practice field after their sessions covered in dirt. Thus the name “Dirtbags” was born. The name resurfaced again in 1993 when the 12-12 49ers rallied to win 34 of their next 41 games and finish three outs short of the National Championship game. The “Dirtbags” were once again a fan favorite at the 1998 College World Series as the country received a lesson in “Dirtbag” baseball."

http://www.longbeachstate.com/bbo/bb...agmeaning.html


.....Kelly