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Old 10-05-2007, 04:42 PM
KAPital PHINUst KAPital PHINUst is offline
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so kapital phinust, what do you think we can do, as brothers, to bring more fellowship and a tighter bond to the fraternity?
Learn how to differentiate diversity from tokenism, then practice true diversity.

Understand that for the sake of diversity, some traditions are worth keeping.

Tighten up membership and (re)chartering criteria; give the prospectives something to desire besides something to put on their resume (my attitude is if you didn't have professional "game" before you joined APO, putting three letters on your resume won't help your cause). If they want the letters, make 'em work (and serve) for it.

Never forget our roots; we are a service fraternity with roots firmly planted in the BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA. And keep those roots in the forefront of everyone's mind. If the tenets of Scouting or the Boy Scouts offend you, don't join us. That's how we came into existence.

Stop trying to pander to the public and prospectives with all the politically correct attitudes and lingo. It makes us look wishy-washy.

Allow alumni to start alumni chapters, not merely alumni associations.

Allow alumni the same voting rights as undergraduates.

Respect others' right to disagree.

Extend the right hand of fellowship, especially after a heated disagreement.

Speak to be understood, not to make yourself heard.

Don't disrespect women in the org. You may not want them there, but respect the fact that they are there. That is something I NEVER have done as a brother, and that is disrespect a female brother.

Treat every brother as your equal and serve with them in an equal capacity.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:29 AM
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Learn how to differentiate diversity from tokenism, then practice true diversity.

Understand that for the sake of diversity, some traditions are worth keeping.
Diversity is important, but too many people spout it, that I am turned off by this. Some groups think its sooo important, they seem to feel they need to promote this on their websites. Its turned 'diversity' it to a meaningless (to me) leftist buzzword.

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Tighten up membership and (re)chartering criteria; give the prospectives something to desire besides something to put on their resume (my attitude is if you didn't have professional "game" before you joined APO, putting three letters on your resume won't help your cause). If they want the letters, make 'em work (and serve) for it.
Its important that chapters have a good pledge program. I kind of hope this new 'pledge program of excellence' award will get them thinking of it. There are many points for this award that many chapters overlook- such as teaching our history and traditions to pledges.

Pledge training is something I feel very strongely about. But I've learned that most others don't agree. I feel that most chapters have been poorly educated on what a pledge program is and should contain. I designed a series of training sessions on this topic, but have only been able to teach the first level session at sections & regionals. I took a 'pledge training' course at a recent national convention and was *very* disappointed. Too much 'sitting around and sharing pledge program ideas' with no true training on pledge programs. But that is a similiar program I have with too much training in APO. Too much 'roundtable discussions' and not enough real training in how things are and should be. Too many actives think they have the basics down (they don't) and feel they only need roundtable discussions with their peers (such 'classes' are really only for those who have gone thru the basics, which they haven't, first). (but I digress)

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Never forget our roots; we are a service fraternity with roots firmly planted in the BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA. And keep those roots in the forefront of everyone's mind. If the tenets of Scouting or the Boy Scouts offend you, don't join us. That's how we came into existence.
Agree. I joined APO because of Scouting. It's ok to have connections with other groups, but lets NEVER forget our connects to Scouting/BSA. Making connections with GSUSA, CFUSA, et al should never be at the expense of our connections with the BSA.

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Stop trying to pander to the public and prospectives with all the politically correct attitudes and lingo. It makes us look wishy-washy.
Again, I have to agree. Why should we consider changing our Toast Song because of what outside groups say? Its none of their business. If prospectives have an issue, the solution is educating them!

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Allow alumni to start alumni chapters, not merely alumni associations.

Allow alumni the same voting rights as undergraduates.
Never happen.

In the old days, alums formed Alumni Chapters and could send voting delegates to National Convention. Hasn't been that way since the 50s. We had an alum gathering in the 90s, and the consensus was how things run was just fine.

Its hard enought getting alums to form alumni associations. (I know, I've tried). Forget about trying to create 'alumni chapters'.

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Respect others' right to disagree.

Extend the right hand of fellowship, especially after a heated disagreement.

Speak to be understood, not to make yourself heard.
What are you, some kind of freak?

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Don't disrespect women in the org. You may not want them there, but respect the fact that they are there. That is something I NEVER have done as a brother, and that is disrespect a female brother.

Treat every brother as your equal and serve with them in an equal capacity.
There are too many Brothers who fail to do this...
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