Protest at Columbia over Iranian President

DaemonSeid · #1 09-24-2007, 05:36 PM

here is my question and this may sound familiar to some...the

Why did a whole bunch of people travel all this distance to Columbia to protest?

What did it prove?

What was the purpose of protesting one isolated person out of all the people in the world that you could protest?

What did you all think would be the end result of this protest would be....?

and I forgot to add...what is the relevance of having a protest if this gentleman lives so far away that what he does is of no relevance to you.

just a thought.

Kevin · #2 09-24-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

here is my question and this may sound familiar to some...the

Why did a whole bunch of people travel all this distance to Columbia to protest?

What did it prove?

What was the purpose of protesting one isolated person out of all the people in the world that you could protest?

What did you all think would be the end result of this protest would be....?

just a thought.

Protests in general are pretty pointless.

They're just wastes of time for (mostly) unemployed people. It must be nice to not have to show up to work/class/whatever right in the middle of the week. Perhaps these peoples' time could best be spent filling out employment applications or doing community service?

We have a peace rally here in OKC at a certain location every evening at 5PM -- the big one is on Fridays. We don't get the colorful types Rudey describes. Mostly a bunch of 60's left-behinds trying to relive their youths. I have a feeling that they see this more as a social event and an opportunity to show off their mad bongo skillz than anything reasonably calculated to accomplish a political objective.

That's just my take though.

I'm glad we agree on this.

DaemonSeid · #3 09-24-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Protests in general are pretty pointless.

They're just wastes of time for (mostly) unemployed people. It must be nice to not have to show up to work/class/whatever right in the middle of the week. Perhaps these peoples' time could best be spent filling out employment applications or doing community service?

We have a peace rally here in OKC at a certain location every evening at 5PM -- the big one is on Fridays. We don't get the colorful types Rudey describes. Mostly a bunch of 60's left-behinds trying to relive their youths. I have a feeling that they see this more as a social event and an opportunity to show off their mad bongo skillz than anything reasonably calculated to accomplish a political objective.

That's just my take though.

I'm glad we agree on this.

Oh I didnt say that we agree kevin...you are indeed mistaken.

Some of those same questions that some people in here posed last week about jena, I just thought i would throw right back and see what i got....see the difference?

GeekyPenguin · #4 09-24-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Protests in general are pretty pointless.

They're just wastes of time for (mostly) unemployed people. It must be nice to not have to show up to work/class/whatever right in the middle of the week. Perhaps these peoples' time could best be spent filling out employment applications or doing community service?

We have a peace rally here in OKC at a certain location every evening at 5PM -- the big one is on Fridays. We don't get the colorful types Rudey describes. Mostly a bunch of 60's left-behinds trying to relive their youths. I have a feeling that they see this more as a social event and an opportunity to show off their mad bongo skillz than anything reasonably calculated to accomplish a political objective.

That's just my take though.

I'm glad we agree on this.

If it's on a Friday at 5 p.m. presumably they could have gone to work all day...maybe even somewhere other than their daddy's law firm.

Kevin · #5 09-24-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

If it's on a Friday at 5 p.m. presumably they could have gone to work all day...maybe even somewhere other than their daddy's law firm.

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

-- but we all like to feel like we contribute to society I suppose.

DaemonSeid · #6 09-24-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

-- but we all like to feel like we contribute to society I suppose.

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

Kevin · #7 09-24-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

What exactly are you trying to say? What has come out of the Columbia protests or Jena which will result in any societal changes?

Nothing.

Rudey · #8 09-25-2007, 12:18 AM

Ignoring all the foolish posts in this thread, my favorite remark today by the president of Iran was in regards to treatment of gays, and him basically calling Americans gay. Pretty funny IMO:

Pressed by Dean Coatsworth on the original question about the rights of gay men and lesbians in Iran, Mr. Ahmadinejad said: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country.”

The audience booed and hissed loudly. Some laughed, uncomfortably.

“In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon,” Mr. Ahmadinejad continued, undeterred. “I do not know who has told you that we have it.

-Rudey

DaemonSeid · #9 09-25-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

What exactly are you trying to say? What has come out of the Columbia protests or Jena which will result in any societal changes?

Nothing.

dude...why are your jaws still flapping...you indicated that you don't care...we all get it.

kddani · #10 09-25-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

and that is what scares me...people who dont have a finger on the pulse of society but find ways to get put into power,,,,

I don't think Kevin is going to be able to wield all that much power from a family law firm in Oklahoma.

Back on topic somewhat, I wish I had taken advantage more of my college experience to see speakers, controversial and not. I am glad that I did not spend any of my college time being a crazy protester at everything that reeked even slightly of controversy.

Munchkin03 · #11 09-25-2007, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

I know you think that all of the protestors are unemployed liberals--but come on, Kevin. Some of the people there really are the type who didn't want to see the 60s go, but the majority are well-educated and affluent college students. Columbia costs something like 45K a year to attend, and only about half of the roughly seven thousand undergrads qualify for any assistance. Do the math.

A lot of those Columbia students may not fit your idea of what a successful person is (hell, during my time there they annoyed me), but after college, a good chunk of these kids will actually go to some of the best law schools (as opposed to a TTTT like yourself) and go on to prestigious clerkships or top law firms, where they will indeed wield far, far more power than you ever will in Oklahoma.

Just so you know, and you'll stop talking out of your ass...

Kevin · #12 09-25-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I know you think that all of the protestors are unemployed liberals--but come on, Kevin. Some of the people there really are the type who didn't want to see the 60s go, but the majority are well-educated and affluent college students. Columbia costs something like 45K a year to attend, and only about half of the roughly seven thousand undergrads qualify for any assistance. Do the math.

A lot of those Columbia students may not fit your idea of what a successful person is (hell, during my time there they annoyed me), but after college, a good chunk of these kids will actually go to some of the best law schools (as opposed to a TTTT like yourself) and go on to prestigious clerkships or top law firms, where they will indeed wield far, far more power than you ever will in Oklahoma.

Just so you know, and you'll stop talking out of your ass...

Most of those Columbia grads would probably trade places with me. I could have transferred to a T-2 after my first year (was #5 in my section), decided not to. I turned down law review as well.

Family law brings in the bucks as divorce/custody cases are very common. It's definitely not the only thing we do, however. Big law is highly overrated.

I'll have 99% of those Columbia grads beat in terms of both influence and salary. Sure it's Oklahoma, but it's a great place to live. I guess you can look down your nose at flyover states, but I'm pretty happy here.

FSUZeta · #13 09-25-2007, 09:51 AM

did anyone else have a hard time following the speech?

i don't know if it was a case of many things truly being lost in the translation, or just rambling thoughts. i had a similar experience understanding(or not) and following the speech of a muslim cleric who had been invited to speak at my church several years ago.

the main thing i took away from his speech(the iranian president) was that no matter what he was saying, it always circled back to him-he seems to be the center of his universe; he is an academic, he is interested in further research concerning the Holocaust, he has been insulted.

kstar · #14 09-25-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Working for my "daddy's law firm," I'll have FAR more effect on the state of the world than any of those folks ever will.

-- but we all like to feel like we contribute to society I suppose.

Yes, chasing whambulances and getting out of parking tickets.

Nevermind, this has apparently already been addressed.

squirrely girl · #15 09-25-2007, 07:38 PM

ha!