JENA 6

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by GoldnBlue2004

It isn't about taking up sides due to race. It is about equal justice. There were people who marched yesterday of every race, creed, and color. The point is that you have these white boys who hung nooses on a tree which is a hate crime which is a federal offense and nothing happened to them when they should be jailed for just that.

Uh.. the U.S. Attorney (who is probably better at law-stuff than you) disagrees.

-- don't you hate when facts get in the way?

Yeah, whoever did that is a racist jackass. Fortunately, in this country, we don't yet punish people for thoughtcrime. Just because an act was motivated by hate doesn't make it a hate-crime.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Uh.. the U.S. Attorney (who is probably better at law-stuff than you) disagrees.

-- don't you hate when facts get in the way?

Yeah, whoever did that is a racist jackass. Fortunately, in this country, we don't yet punish people for thoughtcrime. Just because an act was motivated by hate doesn't make it a hate-crime.

jackassery reconizes jackassery......I guess that would look familiar to you huh?


Think about that last statement....exactly how much sense does that make....?

But then you may be right.....

"Just because an act was motivated by hate doesn't make it a hate-crime."

I guess the Logan 6 didn't 'hate' that girl....huh....but they they sure left a weeks worth of dislike all over her.

And I guess those guys didn't 'hate' your grandfather either....just hated getting screwed out of a deal?

Hell...I would 'hate' being on the wrong end of a money deal gone bad....

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

jackassery reconizes jackassery......I guess that would look familiar to you huh?

I'm going to have to put some of these in my sig.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Think about that last statement....exactly how much sense does that make....?

As ridiculously foolish as that statement sounds, Law-boy has a point. A crime can't be a hate crime because it's motivated by hate alone. It also has to be motivated by a prejudice and/or intolerance of some sort--without that second part, it doesn't legally fit the category.

I'm really disappointed about the bail being denied, but I'm sending him a letter of encouragement tomorrow. While I definitely believe those boys were never innocent and all deserved punishment, Mychal has been through enough. If he hasn't learned a lesson after all this (and I believe he has), no amount of jail time is going to teach him. It's time to let this boy get on with his life.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

I'm going to have to put some of these in my sig.



As ridiculously foolish as that statement sounds, Law-boy has a point. A crime can't be a hate crime because it's motivated by hate alone. It also has to be motivated by a prejudice and/or intolerance of some sort--without that second part, it doesn't legally fit the category.

I'm really disappointed about the bail being denied, but I'm sending him a letter of encouragement tomorrow. While I definitely believe those boys were never innocent and all deserved punishment, Mychal has been through enough. If he hasn't learned a lesson after all this (and I believe he has), no amount of jail time is going to teach him. It's time to let this boy get on with his life.

He may have a point but it still "subject to interpretation"...let's see who they get to 'interpret' the hate laws in the Logan 6 case as well.

BTW...I did find an FAQ

http://www.acjnet.org/youthfaq/define.html

and another link

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offen...ime/index.html

and they are subject to law boy's interpretation as well...

I am also sure he can provide us with some other illuminating links that can clearly (or murkily) define what get's defined as a hate crime.