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09-21-2007, 03:34 PM
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I'm sure all fraternities have means by which a member can be expelled. If a member ceases to meet the minimum requirements which a member must meet, PC or not, they're gone. For us, there are other automatic expulsion rules (like being convicted of a felony, failing to pay dues, etc.)
My interpretation is a literal one -- if one's gender is physically changed, that person, nor the state, nor anyone else views it as a genital mutilation. They view it as gender reassignment.
Far be it from me to tell your fraternity how to treat this situation. How would mine handle it? If you're not a man, you're not a member. Easy.
I don't think a largely conservative, old, traditional organization such as mine is going to wiggle around with shifting definitions of gender so that we can keep a person on the membership roster after gender reassignment. They'll just be out.
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Once you aren't an undergrad anymore, your ties to the Fraternity mostly revolve around continuing to support and advancing the goals of the organization. I highly doubt that Sigma Nu Nationals is going to turn away anyone's donorship or foundation support, and I SERIOUSLY doubt steps would be taken to retroactively withdraw membership from an initiated knight a decade or two down the road...
If you look at a list of initiated members throughout the life of a Fraternity, any fraternity in this case, you will see TONS of ambiguous names (i.e. Lindsay, Elisha, Ashley, Shannon, etc.) I honestly don't think the National body as a whole would be weeding through and leaning up the rosters
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09-21-2007, 03:43 PM
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Once you aren't an undergrad anymore, your ties to the Fraternity mostly revolve around continuing to support and advancing the goals of the organization. I highly doubt that Sigma Nu Nationals is going to turn away anyone's donorship or foundation support, and I SERIOUSLY doubt steps would be taken to retroactively withdraw membership from an initiated knight a decade or two down the road...
If you look at a list of initiated members throughout the life of a Fraternity, any fraternity in this case, you will see TONS of ambiguous names (i.e. Lindsay, Elisha, Ashley, Shannon, etc.) I honestly don't think the National body as a whole would be weeding through and leaning up the rosters 
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If it were brought to HQ's attention, however, I think it becomes a serious question. Part of our tax status/gender exclusivity is based upon the single-sex nature of our organization.
I can't go into the details, because I really don't know much about that sort of thing just yet.
I do think it'd be bad joo-joo as far as the IRS is concerned, however.
You're absolutely right though, no one is combing through membership rosters.
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09-21-2007, 04:06 PM
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I do think it'd be bad joo-joo as far as the IRS is concerned
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Joo-joo?
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09-21-2007, 08:43 PM
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Joo-joo?
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Don't you recognize serious serious tax law when you read it?
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