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09-20-2007, 12:22 PM
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Although I can't speak for Kevin, when I posted in this thread, I saw only one other thread covering this topic. And that thread seemed to be more of a blow-by-blow or news-announcement thread than one where opinions might be shared. I chose to post in this one because I felt like it was the best place to do that (share opinions).
Maybe if the title of the thread were Jena 6 roll-call, I'd have chosen not to post at all. But, since the title is just Jena 6, I didn't see the harm in posting. Looks like I was wrong.
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09-20-2007, 12:52 PM
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It is telling that folks are splitting hairs over a thread title and placement of said thread.
Oh wait, I forgot, this is GC.  Nevermind.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
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09-20-2007, 12:52 PM
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"It breaks our heart to see him handcuffed and in leg shackles," Sharpton said. "But his spirit is high. He has said that he is very encouraged to know that thousands are coming to this town to stand up for him and his five friends."
Give the kid a medal...
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09-20-2007, 12:58 PM
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i'm wearing black
that's pretty much just a coincidence, i stay more in the loop
uh....
my society is broken
that is all i can say, although
one of the black kids was beat down, and then later one of the white ones was
i think justice has been served already
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09-20-2007, 01:16 PM
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Maybe if the title of the thread were Jena 6 roll-call, I'd have chosen not to post at all. But, since the title is just Jena 6, I didn't see the harm in posting. Looks like I was wrong.
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I highly doubt anyone would be objecting if your post was something along the lines of:
"FREE THE JENA 6!"
I disagree that these punks deserve a rally. This seemed like a good place to voice that opinion. There are maybe 5 posts that have anything to do with a roll call. The next 2 1/2 pages are discussions pertaining to the appropriateness of the event.
I still fail to see how any of that is "inflammatory." Oh well.
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09-20-2007, 01:23 PM
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Gee Kevin, for someone who is always spouting that mods should be held to a higher standard, you're being awfully snotty, condescending and disrespectful of other people's opinions and expressions.
Injustice in the real world is okay, but snarkiness on an internet message board is just intolerable!!!
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09-20-2007, 01:26 PM
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Weren't some of these people on the other side the last time a crazy DA railroaded some students?
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09-20-2007, 01:29 PM
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Weren't some of these people on the other side the last time a crazy DA railroaded some students?
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Hadn't thought about that one. I wonder what a search would churn up?
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09-20-2007, 03:02 PM
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My preface to everything I'm about to say -- I'm with Obama here (which is the LAST thing you'd ever expect me to say), but this shouldn't be a black/white issue, but rather a right/wrong issue.
People talk about the jury and how people knew the DA and what not... well Jena is a town of not even 3,000 people, that's to be expected.
It is BEYOND a shame that in a case like this Bell was given a subpar public defender. I would have expected someone to step in and work pro-bono if nothing else. I'm still confused as to why this didn't happen. Yes, he has new representation now, but it's a shame he didn't get it sooner.
Bell does have a record, and while a record is not the equivalent of guilt, it doesn't sit well with me either.
Now I don't think it was right that he got beat up at a party. However, it doesn't seem to compare to the beating that Barker got. However, I'm not trying to compare wrong to wrong. No he wasn't invited to the private party, but he wasn't asking for a beating either. Then again, I'm sure there are those who'd argue that in going he doing just that. Either way, I'd imagine if he really was beaten that badly, the case wouldn't have just stopped. People can appeal cases and that's the point. If a severe injustice has been done to you, why would you just let it rest? It seems to me now that the beating from the party is being used here as evidence to say "well I was beaten too and they didn't get in this much trouble, why should I get in this much trouble for beating him?" It just doesn't work that way.
Finally, there are appeals for good reason and this case proves how valuable they are.
But the details of the case aside, I think this whole ordeal proves just how alive racism is, coming from all directions. Instead of pointing at it and drawing attention to the problem, we need to start thinking of a solution and acting on it.
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09-20-2007, 03:16 PM
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They probably were. The DA or City Attorney is probably racist.
I'm just stunned that some kids brutally beat a kid and are now being celebrated and portrayed as victims. Black people are concerned about inequitable application of justice, which could be legitimate. I'm concerned about their selective memory and history of double standards. After all, according to many at the rallies, "we gotta look after our own"...
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You are right, people we shouldn't celebrate criminal acts. As far as your comment on application of justice and double standards I think that that line is EXTREMELY fine.
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My preface to everything I'm about to say -- I'm with Obama here (which is the LAST thing you'd ever expect me to say), but this shouldn't be a black/white issue, but rather a right/wrong issue.
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Correct. It shouldn't be about race. It should be right or wrong. The problem is that many black people have been shown a discrepancy when it comes to right and wrong and race is why that discrepancy occurs.
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09-20-2007, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SydneyK
Although I can't speak for Kevin, when I posted in this thread, I saw only one other thread covering this topic. And that thread seemed to be more of a blow-by-blow or news-announcement thread than one where opinions might be shared. I chose to post in this one because I felt like it was the best place to do that (share opinions).
Maybe if the title of the thread were Jena 6 roll-call, I'd have chosen not to post at all. But, since the title is just Jena 6, I didn't see the harm in posting. Looks like I was wrong.
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Sydney.....thank you...your intentions are in the right place.
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