Student Tasered at Kerry Lecture

[whitegreyhat]

The video only showed him talking for 15 seconds? I think i am missing the whole story. But it is quite sad, yet he should have left and complied with the police. Unfortunately since Kerry is a senator and former presidential candidate, he is entitled to a certain level of security. The kid seemed angry at him which could be considered a threat. (although iam not sure why he was) Tasing is not that big of a deal, I have been tasered by a friend and although it does hurt, its not lethal or anything under any circumstance. People need to learn to present their arguments in a respectful and educated manner, not screaming at Kerry like he just ran over your puppy.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by whitegreyhat

Tasing is not that big of a deal, I have been tasered by a friend and although it does hurt, its not lethal or anything under any circumstance.

Actually, there are a number of cases, two that I know of here in Denver, where subjects who were tased died, possibly due to pre-existing heart conditions that the tasing exaserbated.

It's not the norm, but it may well be lethal.

Here's a story:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/201827_taser01.html

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

But don't you think there would be at least as much if not more "stifling-of-free speech" spin had it been a Bush or Cheney event, whether they had requested he be removed or not?

We both know it would have spun out of control, had the shoe been on the other foot.

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

Actually, there are a number of cases, two that I know of here in Denver, where subjects who were tased died, possibly due to pre-existing heart conditions that the tasing exaserbated.

It's not the norm, but it may well be lethal.

Here's a story:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/201827_taser01.html

One of the main reasons I posted.

When I first posted, the information about this guy being a conspiracy freak wasn't widely published, if at all. I was wondering more about whether the police who tasered him were college security, or regular police, and also the whole "why is he so weirded out when he's going with the Kerry program?" bit.

I'll save my other remark - free speech, don't you know?

[FSUZeta]

please honey,

don't give him to us!! he is a student at the university of florida.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I'll save my other remark - free speech, don't you know?

Oh I see what you did there!

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by honeychile

We both know it would have spun out of control, had the shoe been on the other foot.


One of the main reasons I posted.

When I first posted, the information about this guy being a conspiracy freak wasn't widely published, if at all. I was wondering more about whether the police who tasered him were college security, or regular police, and also the whole "why is he so weirded out when he's going with the Kerry program?" bit.

I'll save my other remark - free speech, don't you know?

There is no free speech allowed when GDub, Laura, or the twins come to town. You have to get tickets. You can't get a ticket if you're a white Irish Catholic girl from the suburbs. Why is that?

I can play this game alllllll day long.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

There is no free speech allowed when GDub, Laura, or the twins come to town. You have to get tickets. You can't get a ticket if you're a white Irish Catholic girl from the suburbs. Why is that?

I can play this game alllllll day long.

Exactly - "free speech" is completely irrelevant to this event, just like it is at a Bush rally, just like it is on a message board, blah blah chow meow.

This kid was a douche, he did something stupid, he got whacked with a taser. This is NOT some sort of liberal mind-melding or limiting of conservative free speech - this kid was as far left as the eye can see, way off the reservation. At a Bush rally, he would have been tasered outside instead of inside, and we would all laugh at the kid for being a whiny crazy douche who couldn't follow the simple rules and make his point within conventions. Just like we are now.

Well, most of us.

ALSO, this is SUPERB - the Internet is truly amazing.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

There is no free speech allowed when GDub, Laura, or the twins come to town. You have to get tickets. You can't get a ticket if you're a white Irish Catholic girl from the suburbs. Why is that?

I can play this game alllllll day long.

You have me (and probably a lot of other people) at a distinct disadvantage, as I don't know the details. I've gone to both Democratic and Republican events (yes, I changed parties) which both required tickets and didn't require tickets. The only time I was asked about my religion was for a Kennedy event. I'm also a white Irish girl from the suburbs, but my religion is freely mocked.

See, I can play the game, too - which doesn't mean that I care to. I got out of the hard core nonsense a while ago.

[Tom Earp]

In finally seeing a better shot of footage, with that many Officers surrounding him, and they could not subdue him? I am woindering what is wrong with this picture.

There is a difference in subduing and tasering.

That is used as a last resort before shooting a person.

Thank goddnes they did not do that!

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

In finally seeing a better shot of footage, with that many Officers surrounding him, and they could not subdue him? I am woindering what is wrong with this picture.

There is a difference in subduing and tasering.

That is used as a last resort before shooting a person.

Thank goddnes they did not do that!

The very first national report of this did say that he was shot - that's what caught my attention.

Now that I know it was campus police, and not local police, it does put a different spin on things.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by honeychile

You have me (and probably a lot of other people) at a distinct disadvantage, as I don't know the details. I've gone to both Democratic and Republican events (yes, I changed parties) which both required tickets and didn't require tickets. The only time I was asked about my religion was for a Kennedy event. I'm also a white Irish girl from the suburbs, but my religion is freely mocked.

See, I can play the game, too - which doesn't mean that I care to. I got out of the hard core nonsense a while ago.

Bush events require tickets. The people handing out those tickets are very reticent about who they give them to. I'm not talking about fundraising dinners (of course those require tickets!) but simple speeches. Here's an article from 2005 discussing the issue:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153720,00.html

I was denied tickets to events in 2004 on several occasions. I doubt it was because I am a white Irish Catholic girl from the suburbs - but I stated that to make it clear that I am not someone who appears to be a "terrorist" or of a race that (sadly) arouses suspsicion. In fact, when the twins came to Marquette, the rumor was that every member of the College Democrats was banned from attending.