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09-18-2007, 02:32 PM
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Obviously each sorority knows their rules and will act accordingly. Women who are rushing allow for their information is given to those in the chapters who need to that specific information-grades, and anything else on the application that is asked. I'm sure they will accept only those they can take so let's not fret over this aspect as obviously it will take care of itself.
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09-18-2007, 02:35 PM
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Obviously each sorority knows their rules and will act accordingly.
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I don't know about that. I seem to remember reading on here that an org had given a bid to a woman and then they had to take it back because it was in their bylaws that they couldn't bid someone who already had a degree.
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09-18-2007, 02:41 PM
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Plus, I am not sure I've seen a recruitment app that asked about previous degrees. Schools yes, degrees no.
To avoid the heartache, UWO needs to ask this question specifically of the remaining chapters.
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09-18-2007, 02:57 PM
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Plus, I am not sure I've seen a recruitment app that asked about previous degrees. Schools yes, degrees no.
To avoid the heartache, UWO needs to ask this question specifically of the remaining chapters.
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I think the heartache has already happened. While it is unusual for degree-holders to seek membership in a sorority, I can see why it might be necessary to ask about previous degrees. Women who are in UWO's position would know going into R what is allowed, as opposed to finding out once R has already started, and even worse, once her heart is already set on a particular org.
Let's face it, if women don't find out about the degree rule until after R has already begun (or once they have received their bids), chances are pretty slim that they'll risk losing membership in an org they desire by ratting themselves out. (I'm not suggesting the OP is the type of woman who would intentionally withhold info in order to increase her chances of getting a bid. I'm just saying that there are people like that out there.)
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09-18-2007, 03:36 PM
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09-18-2007, 05:38 PM
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I am a transfer freshman, starting a new bachelor's degree and continuing with an MBA.
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This struck me as a little wierd. Can you be an MBA student and be considered a "freshman?" Even if you are pursuing a bachelor's degree in a different discipline, aren't you considered a "graduate"?
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09-18-2007, 05:43 PM
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This struck me as a little wierd. Can you be an MBA student and be considered a "freshman?" Even if you are pursuing a bachelor's degree in a different discipline, aren't you considered a "graduate"?
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It depends on how the school classifies her. Some schools, if you are enrolled in an undergraduate degree seeking program, are going to classify you as an undergraduate regardless. Now, if she is pursuing her MBA at the same school/sametime, I would assume they would classify her a graduate student, for the sake of ease.
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09-18-2007, 05:45 PM
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This struck me as a little wierd. Can you be an MBA student and be considered a "freshman?" Even if you are pursuing a bachelor's degree in a different discipline, aren't you considered a "graduate"?
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I guess it would depend on how her school classifies students.
After I got my BA, I returned the following semester to take undergrad classes, but even then I was listed as an "unclassified graduate student".
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09-18-2007, 06:02 PM
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Good point, Low C, that's what I was trying to say earlier.
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09-18-2007, 08:19 PM
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My age should have nothing to do with wanting to get involved. There are members OLDER than me in the greek system where I go to school. I also checked into the age issue for every sorrority on campus BEFORE recruitment... there are none. In addition, NONE of the young ladies asked my age. (I also don't look anywhere near my mid 20's... so it's not like I look like an old spinster or something)
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It's not that older members can't be involved. It's that a member who is that much older than the others is probably going to have different priorities. Also...and maybe no one else has ever experienced this, but I'm just going to throw it out there:
A lot of times, people who are in their 30's or above tend to 'talk down' to younger adults, try to reorganize and run things, and argue with the way things are done based on their "life experience". I'm not saying you do; I don't even know you. I'm just saying that I personally would be hesitant in bidding an older member because I wouldn't want her to disrupt the chapter in such a way. Of course, I would definitely give her a fair chance, but I would be more cautious.
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09-18-2007, 10:00 PM
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I was talking to a chapter advisor whose chapter is just finishing up recruitment and this topic came up. They had a woman come through recruitment who was 27. On her campus, this wasn't a huge event, but it wasn't out of the ordinary either. The woman did end up receiving a bid, but it raised questions about how the PNM's would feel about having someone is a bit older and MUCH more mature than the average 18 year old freshmen pledging with them. We agreed that there are definite benefits to having someone who has experience and maturity coming through, but also wondering how she is going to "mesh" with 20 other 18 - 20 year old women with completely different priorities who she'll be going through her new member process with.
Anyway, the point of the little story is that it is possible for an older woman to receive a bid, however this woman did receive heavy cuts in the early rounds. Best of luck! Let us know where you end!
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09-19-2007, 06:47 AM
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I can only think of 2 NPC's that I know of that let students who already have a BA or BS join as an undergrad. It's something you might want to think about.
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Which two are those? You can PM me the names.
Also, if an NPC sorority colonizes on a campus while a student is a graduate student, would collegiate membership be allowed in that case as well?
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09-19-2007, 06:53 AM
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Also, if an NPC sorority colonizes on a campus while a student is a graduate student, would collegiate membership be allowed in that case as well?
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Only if the NPC is one of those that allows grad students as new members. As far as I know there are only a couple that do. This thread talks about grad students pursuing collegiate membership in NPCs:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...udents+joining
Please note that just because a sorority's national policies allow for grad students to join, that doesn't mean they will automatically be asked to. It's just like a GPA requirement. Just because you have the minimum 3.0 that XYZ requires, does not mean you'll be asked to join.
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09-19-2007, 07:28 AM
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to answer all of the questions, i have an Associates Degree. I am a transfer freshman because UW only allowed one of my credits, so I am only entering the semester with 3 credits... so I AM AN UNDERGRAD. Once I finish my bachelors (BA and I want to do a BS)I want to go into their MBA program.
Yes they all know of my degree. I spoke with the greek life advisor on campus MONTHS before school even started.
I have completely honest with all of the young ladies I have had conversations with. I was invited back to 3, there were some girls who were invited back to one or none.
I do "mesh" well with younger people... I have to communicate with them daily in my line of work. Most of the people I do know since moving up here... are in that age range.
I'm not doing this the wrong way or hiding anything from any of the young ladies.
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09-19-2007, 07:54 AM
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It's not that older members can't be involved. It's that a member who is that much older than the others is probably going to have different priorities. Also...and maybe no one else has ever experienced this, but I'm just going to throw it out there:
A lot of times, people who are in their 30's or above tend to 'talk down' to younger adults, try to reorganize and run things, and argue with the way things are done based on their "life experience". I'm not saying you do; I don't even know you. I'm just saying that I personally would be hesitant in bidding an older member because I wouldn't want her to disrupt the chapter in such a way. Of course, I would definitely give her a fair chance, but I would be more cautious.
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I would say that it's probably the case here...
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to answer all of the questions, i have an Associates Degree. I am a transfer freshman because UW only allowed one of my credits, so I am only entering the semester with 3 credits... so I AM AN UNDERGRAD. Once I finish my bachelors (BA and I want to do a BS)I want to go into their MBA program.
Yes they all know of my degree. I spoke with the greek life advisor on campus MONTHS before school even started.
I have completely honest with all of the young ladies I have had conversations with. I was invited back to 3, there were some girls who were invited back to one or none.
I do "mesh" well with younger people... I have to communicate with them daily in my line of work. Most of the people I do know since moving up here... are in that age range.
I'm not doing this the wrong way or hiding anything from any of the young ladies.
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I know everyone is different, but I'm 24, and I couldn't imagine wanting to pledge with a group of 18 year olds. I'm in a different stage in my life. Even if I wasn't married and a mom, I don't have the same interests as I did when I was an undergrad. I'm on my district's Education Coaching team, so I'll be doing a little supervising, but I wouldn't want to be committed to going to meetings and events constantly.
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