we need a moderator

[33girl]

There are plenty of locked threads that are still viewable to everyone - I don't know quite what you're talking about with that one.

And no, the mods CANNOT overrule the wishes of the forum members as to who they want appointed. The only person who can appoint a mod is John. The most mods can do is offer opinions, but in reality, this is John's site. If he wants to delete all my posts for no reason, or do something else capricious and arbitrary, he can.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by 33girl

There are plenty of locked threads that are still viewable to everyone - I don't know quite what you're talking about with that one.

And no, the mods CANNOT overrule the wishes of the forum members as to who they want appointed. The only person who can appoint a mod is John. The most mods can do is offer opinions, but in reality, this is John's site. If he wants to delete all my posts for no reason, or do something else capricious and arbitrary, he can.

I mean ones that are moved instead of locked and left. I think moving all threads locked for flaming, etc. to a single forum instead of either locked and left or moved to an area where they are unseen by the rest of the forum would be preferable. Perhaps this area would only be viewable to members who are logged in, if that would satisfy others.

I'm well aware John makes the final decision, but a moderator's protest, or multiple moderator's protests appear to strongly influence his position. And I know full well that moderators have their own grudges just as much as regular members do. The fact that KD may internally agree on who the best moderator would be and this person would not be chosen, (in fact no one may be chosen) makes no sense to me. I'd like to see more transparency in the whole process, making it less of a drama. It's a moderator of a forum. It shouldn't take months to decide.




(And for the record, I'm not talking about me. I only volunteered because SK didn't have a moderator, and now we do, and she's great. Just thought I'd clear the air on that one)

[SydneyK]

You see... this is the reason I think we need a mod. No one is being obstinate, but clearly people have differing opinions. If there's no mod, then the likelihood of posts getting out of hand significantly increases.

Sure, there are supermods, but as kathykd2005 pointed out earlier, that doesn't justify intentionally keeping a group from having a mod (if the group wants one).

I'm afraid I've stirred the pot just by pointing out the fact that we no longer have a mod. It's a catch-22. If I hadn't said anything about it, people (aka John) would assume we don't need/want one. But since I did say something, it seems like now there's kinda an unwelcoming air about the place. And that makes me sad.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I mean ones that are moved instead of locked and left. I think moving all threads locked for flaming, etc. to a single forum instead of either locked and left or moved to an area where they are unseen by the rest of the forum would be preferable. Perhaps this area would only be viewable to members who are logged in, if that would satisfy others.

Some threads are just simply inappropriate to leave public, though. Surely you wouldn't want anything that discusses Ritual, Membership Selection, or anything that compromises an organization's integrity be available via search result, right?

I know some threads get send to the MC for review. Some get cleaned up and sent back to the public forums. Still, there are some things that aren't meant to be left public (insert dueling banjos here).

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

You see... this is the reason I think we need a mod. No one is being obstinate, but clearly people have differing opinions. If there's no mod, then the likelihood of posts getting out of hand significantly increases.

Sure, there are supermods, but as kathykd2005 pointed out earlier, that doesn't justify intentionally keeping a group from having a mod (if the group wants one).

I'm afraid I've stirred the pot just by pointing out the fact that we no longer have a mod. It's a catch-22. If I hadn't said anything about it, people (aka John) would assume we don't need/want one. But since I did say something, it seems like now there's kinda an unwelcoming air about the place. And that makes me sad.

Hope you don't find the conversation inappropriate for your forum, I will take it elsewhere if y'all would prefer.

Originally Posted by OTW

Some threads are just simply inappropriate to leave public, though. Surely you wouldn't want anything that discusses Ritual, Membership Selection, or anything that compromises an organization's integrity be available via search result, right?

I know some threads get send to the MC for review. Some get cleaned up and sent back to the public forums. Still, there are some things that aren't meant to be left public (insert dueling banjos here).

Oh I completely understand that things need to be deleted. And if it were a viewable locked threads forum those pages could be set not to be searched and cached by search engines as well as limiting access to logged on members. I just think that if it shouldn't be public, delete it. If it's just a flame war, it should be locked and moved. (Not that I always agree about the locking of flame wars. I'd rather see the discussions moved to the appropriate area, or Chit Chat, and allowed to continue under the "we're all adults here" mentality. Locking and closing the thread means starting a new one which just results in half of THAT thread being whining about the fact that it's a new thread.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Hope you don't find the conversation inappropriate for your forum, I will take it elsewhere if y'all would prefer.

No, I personally don't find the conversation inappropriate, nor do I think it needs to be taken elsewhere. But, if we had a mod, if either of those things were the case, a mod would be able to take care of it. Without having to go find a supermod to do it.

I'm just sayin'...

Originally Posted by SydneyK

But, if we had a mod, if either of those things were the case, a mod would be able to take care of it. Without having to go find a supermod to do it.

FWIW, James and Barbara are on quite frequently so no one really needs to go find them. I recall reporting a post in this very thread that got taken care of very quickly, and even got a nice reply from the mod thanking me for the heads up.

If there's a problem in the KD forum (or any forum, for that matter) -- just make sure you report it. The mods aren't on 24/7, but they're pretty on it as far as taking care of things go, and that's a big GC improvement.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by OTW

FWIW, James and Barbara are on quite frequently so no one really needs to go find them. I recall reporting a post in this very thread that got taken care of very quickly, and even got a nice reply from the mod thanking me for the heads up.

Thanks - I just never really paid much attention to who is a super vs. run-of-the-mill mod.

And I know the posts you're talking about - thanks for reporting them, btw.