Suicide?

[lilzetakitten]

Normally I'd say to avoid it, but there are reasons I can understand for doing it. For example, one of my suitemates went through recruitment freshman year. We had four sororities at the time. At the end of days 1 and 2 (mandatory invites), she had ranked 1. ABC 2. DEF 3. GHI 4. XYZ. On day three, she was cut by GHI, but her ranking stayed the same. On pref night, she got invited to ABC and XYZ. Although XYZ had been her bottom choice the entire week, she had not been able to release them, and they kept inviting her back.

She suicided ABC, and when her RC called her to tell her ABC did not offer her a bid, but XYZ did, my suitemate was able to honestly say that she would rather not be Greek than be an XYZ. (She joined DEF the next year).

If there is somewhere that you have throughly disliked all four rounds, and you cannot cut them, I can understand SIPing.

[rolltideuofa07]

I am a pledge at the University of Alabama, and I suicided along with one of my roommates. It worked out well for us, thankfully.

[Helicopter1]

rolltideuofa07,


You might want to edit your previous posts--GC detective squad is frighteningly astute.

Originally Posted by Helicopter1

rolltideuofa07,


You might want to edit your previous posts--GC detective squad is frighteningly astute.

Eh, I was going to say something, but nevermind.

[Carolina5577]

I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to post here. I only know a little about Greek life, but am learning so much more recently! At D's school, freshmen have to wait till spring to rush. There is only a small percentage of Greek students (5%). D decided not to rush as a frosh, just didn't want to. Then at the urging of many buddies in ABC sorority, she finally decided to give rush a try this fall as a sophomore. She decided early on to "suicide" ABC sorority. I've been reading this very thread on Greekchat all this past week and warned her not to "suicide!" (So thank-you everyone, at least she was warned!) But D felt she'd rather not be Greek at all than belong to any other than ABC. Well, D did not get a bid. She just got this news today! I'm surprised at how much real pain I feel for her. She feels a little misled too; so many ABC girls told her she'd get a bid from ABC, and were looking forward to having her as a "sister!" I know I'm getting this second hand from her.... Trying not to ask too many questions. Don't want her to think I'm worried. (And I do know she'll be ok, she's a survivor! And 95% of her classmates are not Greek....) I'm thinking maybe someone in ABC really did not want D to join! Don't know what else to think! Or what to say to her.....

[Drolefille]

Also, let her know that no one in ABC should have been promising her bids. They can't do that by the rush rules and no one girl has that power. She'll never know how that vote went, and she shouldn't obsess over it.

[Carolina5577]

UGA and Drole, Thank-you. I agree with you both. It really helps me to chat on this board, because I feel there is no one else who understands! Funny thing is she is not telling me or her dad that she is bothered by this. She did let on to her older sister that she is "peeved." I'm glad she has a biological sister, I don't and wish I did. And I guess I've been a little curious lately about sorority life....never having experienced it. Both my daughters and I have close women friends, and friendship is a wonderful thing! So funny thing is: I think I'm more bothered by this than she is! Oh well, I shouldn't obsess, I know! Thanks again for your thoughts.

[FSUZeta]

mom, we never want our children to experience disappointment or unpleasantness-that's just being a parent.

i am sorry that your daughter did not receive the bid that it sounds like she had been promised. it is really rotten when that happens. i am sure that her friends who are members of that sorority truly did want her to join and are very disappointed and embarassed that the sorority did not extend her a bid.
that is exactly why the national panhellenic conference has the rule that sororities are not supposed to bid promise.


if the campus has such a small amount of kids that go greek, i would venture to guess that should she decide to re-rush and didn't let friends influence her, she might have a positive outcome. best wishes to her, no matter what!

[UGAalum94]

Please remember that often the case is that a group actually likes a girl but is limited in the number of spaces available. It is possible that the group would have been pleased to have her as a member but the method they use to rank girls didn't put her close enough to the top, rather than that anyone worked to kept her out.

[misstip12]

why is suiciding "risky?"
is it b/c the other sororities find out you suicided and that looks bad so they won't give you a bid?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by misstip12

why is suiciding "risky?"
is it b/c the other sororities find out you suicided and that looks bad so they won't give you a bid?

If you hang all your hopes on one sorority, you may not get a bid.

Even if you're on that sorority's bidlist, you may not end up high enough on the list to fit into their quota. Any other sorority that wants you won't be able to get you. AND since you didn't maximize your options you're not eligible to be a quota addition (I think, I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong) which is essentially a bonus member for a chapter during recruitment.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

If you hang all your hopes on one sorority, you may not get a bid.

Even if you're on that sorority's bidlist, you may not end up high enough on the list to fit into their quota. Any other sorority that wants you won't be able to get you. AND since you didn't maximize your options you're not eligible to be a quota addition (I think, I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong) which is essentially a bonus member for a chapter during recruitment.

You are correct!

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by jwright25

You are correct!

Cool beans. I get the rules for snap bids and quota adds mixed up sometimes although they're quite clearly different.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by lemnlime2

My daughter's going through recruitment right now, and her counselor told her that "suiciding" would create a computer default and thus leave her with no bid at all. Is this true? Does every sorority use the same computer program? Maybe this is just a problem for this campus...?

Not true...unfortunately recruitment counselors aren't always schooled in the correct rules of recruitment. I'm sure she was told to discourage SIPing as much as possible, and she thought scaring a girl would do the job. That being said, SIPing is not a good idea....if she doesn't get the bid, it wasn't the computer's fault, it was hers for not leaving herself enough options. The sorority she is SIPing may not want her as much as she wants them...that's why it's a gamble.

[FSUZeta]

computers do not kick out girls who suicide- another urban myth.

panhellenic is the one that uses the computer program. all the sororities submit their lists to panhellenic by a certain deadline, panhellenic enters the data and the computer spits out the invitations.