Suicide?

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by melaxid

**note on these campuses total should be lowered by panhellenic to help grow all groups, unfortunately what typically ends up happening is the strong groups get stronger and the smaller groups struggle. It all depends on the panhellenic spirit of the campus, and the greek leadership.

Melaxid, I wish I could get you in a meeting with a campus Greek Advisor I know, you hit the nail on the head!!!

[nittanyalum]

Oh, and to the original question of the thread, yes I suicided and it worked out, but no, it's not recommended, it is risky.

[beebadger]

When I was in college, I knew a girl who suicided one house and didn't get a bid. She was #1 on another sorority's list, however, and she was contacted and allowed to join that other house. She did. Would they even allow anything like that now that everything is computerized and all?

[SoCalGirl]

That's not out of the ordinary. It's mainly how snap bids work.

[_Lisa_]

I suicided Sigma Kappa, which was a really risky thing to do, but it worked out in the end.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by beebadger

When I was in college, I knew a girl who suicided one house and didn't get a bid. She was #1 on another sorority's list, however, and she was contacted and allowed to join that other house. She did. Would they even allow anything like that now that everything is computerized and all?

The don't suicide if it's computerized I think came about because some of the computer programs kick you out completely if you don't put the max amount down. You know, kind of like they said on the SATs it was better to guess than leave it blank because a blank hole really screwed up the works or something. There are schools where you're not eligible for snap bids or QAs if you suicide, but that would be their rule even if they hand matched. HTH

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The don't suicide if it's computerized I think came about because some of the computer programs kick you out completely if you don't put the max amount down. You know, kind of like they said on the SATs it was better to guess than leave it blank because a blank hole really screwed up the works or something. There are schools where you're not eligible for snap bids or QAs if you suicide, but that would be their rule even if they hand matched. HTH

Wuh? In my SAT prep classes we were always told not to guess because a wrong anwer hurt you more than no answer at all.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Wuh? In my SAT prep classes we were always told not to guess because a wrong anwer hurt you more than no answer at all.

You're correct. A blank answer is worth zero points but the wrong answer subtracts a quarter of a point from your score so guessing is not encouraged! I never liked that idea.

[barnard1897]

There are just so many reasons why people do this.

For many girls, it has to do with who's left on their dance card, so to speak. If it's ABC, DEF and XYZ, and the only house she really wants is ABC, while the 2 other chapters are much weaker at her school, she's going to think long and hard before giving the other 2 a chance.

In my years in the recruitment advising role, I saw just about everything. SIPing because of hard core dirty rushing--especially rampant on a deferred rec. campus where PH enforcement is weak. SIPing because she was a sophomore and only wanted to be in her friends' sorority. SIPing because she was not willing to commit to the other choice(s). I've seen girls SIP when she only has 1 strong house in comparison to the others, and I've seen it happen when all of the houses are strong but the girls only want what they want. It happens when PNMs travel in packs and follow what the others are doing. It also happens when PNMs are highly independent and for whatever reason decide it's not worth the time to shop around.

I did not SIP because after pref, I seriously could have seen myself in either of the 2 houses. My roommate, on the other hand, SIP'ed the house we both ultimately pledged and she did it in an earlier round. She just didn't like the other house (glamour girls) and wasn't interested in their sales pitch (she was this amazing supermodel type--boy, that killed them).

[AlphaXi4983]

Originally Posted by RazorbackMom

Anybody know of a girl who suicided and got a bid from the chapter she wanted?

I did. It was during informal recruitment during the spring, I don't think all of the chapters were taking pledge classes, and the other sorority that I was interested in also had their parties at the same time as axid. In hindsight, I think it was foolish (don't get me wrong - i love axid - but i think it's better to go through formal recruitment and really get to see all of the chapters), but it worked out in the end

[beebadger]

My daughter is going to prefs tonight and at her school that's only 2 parties. One she really likes and one she definitely would not want to join (she went to 3 yesterday). So... she's certainly hoping her fav. is one of the 2 tonight and she's willing to go to the other, but doesn't see herself as being a sister there. So... she thinks she has to rank both. I told her to check with her Rho Gamma because if she ranked both she might be invited to join her 2nd choice. I know suicide is a risk, but it seems to make sense if you definitely don't want the other house. My question is this: they are also colonizing another house on campus in a few weeks. If she suicides her first choice and doesn't get it will she be eligible to rush at the new sorority?

ALso -- it's the ACT test where you're supposed to guess!!

[AZ-AlphaXi]

If you only rank 1 choice and don't get it .. you are a free agent and can COB when formal recruitment is complete or participate in the recruitment for a colony.

if you rank multiple choices, get a bid and decline it than you CANNOT accept a bid
to an NPC sorority for 1 year. This would include a colonization recruitment.

you are correct, if you won't accept the bid DO NOT rank it on your preference/bid card!!
the Rho Gamma may try to persuide her to list both but she shouldn't if she knows for
a fact she won't accept the bid.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by beebadger

If she suicides her first choice and doesn't get it will she be eligible to rush at the new sorority?

Yes she is. If you suicide and don't get a bid, you are eligible to go through a colony's recruitment.

Now if she lists BOTH, gets a bid from her 2nd choice, and declines it, she is NOT ELIGIBLE to participate in the colony recruitment or any informal recruitment for one year.

[beebadger]

Well, my daughter did get invited to a pref party at her 1st choice and one other. I forgot to mention that she is a legacy at her 1st choice, which is the only one she ranked. Does anyone know how legacies are handled these days? I'm a Gamma Phi. Don't know if it varies by Panhel at various schools or by individual chapters, or if there is an overall rule within a sorority. If this can't be discussed in an open chat, you can send me a private message. I only want to know for me. I won't ruin her Bid Day experience by sharing any info on this with her.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by beebadger

Well, my daughter did get invited to a pref party at her 1st choice and one other. I forgot to mention that she is a legacy at her 1st choice, which is the only one she ranked. Does anyone know how legacies are handled these days? I'm a Gamma Phi. Don't know if it varies by Panhel at various schools or by individual chapters, or if there is an overall rule within a sorority. If this can't be discussed in an open chat, you can send me a private message. I only want to know for me. I won't ruin her Bid Day experience by sharing any info on this with her.

Isn't that MS?