Theta Nu Epsilon

[wptw]

Originally Posted by KS(B)UA

there is no truth to what yall are asking to find out. those that know wont tell and those that don't will lie. theres a reason no one knows anything about this society.

i tell you honestly that its older than the skull and bones, more powerful and more connected.it follows closely anyone and everyone asking questions about.

oooooooooh... creepy

thanks for the laugh.

wptw
...those who know are known only to no one, and no one knows who knows but the knowers of the unknown...

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by wptw

oooooooooh... creepy

thanks for the laugh.

wptw
...those who know are known only to no one, and no one knows who knows but the knowers of the unknown...

WE LOVE YOU, WPTW!!!!!!

[mystikchick]

Fratitude, you have confused Phi Nu Theta (otherwise known as the Eclectic Society), which is a co-ed literary society with an application based membership and known members with TNE, which to the best of my knowledge, is none of these things.

[Fratitude]

I am not confused in the least. First though let me say that I do not mind when someone is attempting to correct something even if they turn out not to be right- we're all human, and in this case you happen not to be right.

I assure you I know about TNE. On the other hand I am not a follower nor do I have any interest in anything that goes on at Weslyan other than that it houses some sort of TNE and by extension of the fellow that runs it, the Mystical Seven. Nevertheless I am not "confused" at all between Eclectic and the various Mystical 7's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystical_Seven_(Wesleyan) , http://www.wesleyanargus.com/article...rticle_id=4151

TNE at Wesleyan (Thetanuepsilon dot com) is run by a fellow who brought it back or revitalized it in a very different form. He has a facebook group, a blog and that website which he has been working on for years. It is a very different thing than other TNE groups. There are senseless people who will start the back and forth bickering about legitimacy and authority, usually coming from Wesleyan. I am not addressing the "legitimacy" issue at all.

The other TNE's tend to run as I described. They do good and they accomplish things (which is more than many other organizations), even if their reputation does not always reflect that. One would imagine their independence allows them to accomplish more than groups under the control of administrators, etc. and that this independence carries over to post grad life.

Maybe there is something you know that I have wrong about the Mystical Seven or Eclectic (which I know little about.) It would make a great thread.

[mystikchick]

Originally Posted by Fratitude

I am not confused in the least. First though let me say that I do not mind when someone is attempting to correct something even if they turn out not to be right- we're all human, and in this case you happen not to be right.

I assure you I know about TNE. On the other hand I am not a follower nor do I have any interest in anything that goes on at Weslyan other than that it houses some sort of TNE and by extension of the fellow that runs it, the Mystical Seven. Nevertheless I am not "confused" at all between Eclectic and the various Mystical 7's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystical_Seven_(Wesleyan) , http://www.wesleyanargus.com/article...rticle_id=4151

TNE at Wesleyan (Thetanuepsilon dot com) is run by a fellow who brought it back or revitalized it in a very different form. He has a facebook group, a blog and that website which he has been working on for years. It is a very different thing than other TNE groups. There are senseless people who will start the back and forth bickering about legitimacy and authority, usually coming from Wesleyan. I am not addressing the "legitimacy" issue at all.

The other TNE's tend to run as I described. They do good and they accomplish things (which is more than many other organizations), even if their reputation does not always reflect that. One would imagine their independence allows them to accomplish more than groups under the control of administrators, etc. and that this independence carries over to post grad life.

Maybe there is something you know that I have wrong about the Mystical Seven or Eclectic (which I know little about.) It would make a great thread. I'm pretty solid on TNE however.

Ah, I see. I understand where you are coming from now - the Wesleyan chapter certainly does not seem to be at all like the way the chapter at, for example, Bama has been described. Mystical Seven is a whole other ball game, but I had never heard that the same person was involved with both TNE and M7. Just thought I would pipe in as an alum and make sure you weren't confusing the two

[Taconicus]

Originally Posted by Fratitude

What I hear: The self styled "Alpha Chapter" at Wesleyan is an open if unrecognized co-ed society, NOT a fraternity and NOT an inter-fraternity group. One fthen student who wasn't in any other fraternity "recreated" or brought it back about a decade ago and also recreated the Mystical Seven as a public society. (There are two groups calling themselves Mystical Seven at Wesleyan though only one has much of a presence. One side says that says both of the organizations the fellow recreated- TNE and the "other" Mystical Seven are b.s.- but that's between them.)

This has nothing to do with the Mystical 7.

Originally Posted by Fratitude

I think you guys are talking about the other more infamous Theta Nu Epsilon chapters that have usually been around for decades at various campuses,. they operate as a private coordinating body for fraternities, societies and sometimes sororities as well and have their own fraternal character. (Some merged with or became secret societies that are political but operate independently of any GLO coordinating function.) At any rate, they operate along the lines of the Alabama chapter of Theta Nu Epsilon (The Machine/Skull and Keys.) Chapters have various names that they use as well as Theta Nu Epsilon (TNE.)

This is a fantasy. It just simply isn't true, and Fratitude knows it.

On another thread, I challenged Fratitude to come up with anything that would back this claim up. He couldn't. And I knew he wouldn't be able to.

There are no meetings of powerful Theta Nu Epsilon alumni, anywhere. There are no meetings of many chapters, anywhere. There is no influence weilded by anybody. It all doesn't exist. Fratitude is simply trying to con as many people as he can. This is all a lie.

Originally Posted by Fratitude

TNE are said to have a very politically powerful alumni base in some regions if all the press is to be believed. See welcometothemachine dot info/ PS-From what I know they do not demand that prospects share their rituals though I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get this info out of them.

Utterly untrue. Aside from whatever local thing might be happening in Alabama with an organization called The Machiene, (which is not even Theta Nu Epsilon), there is no powerful alumni influence in any Theta Nu Epsilon chapter.

Originally Posted by Fratitude

TNE at Wesleyan (Thetanuepsilon dot com) is run by a fellow who brought it back or revitalized it in a very different form. He has a facebook group, a blog and that website which he has been working on for years. It is a very different thing than other TNE groups. There are senseless people who will start the back and forth bickering about legitimacy and authority, usually coming from Wesleyan. I am not addressing the "legitimacy" issue at all.

The only legitimate Theta Nu Epsilon is the National, led by the Alpha Chapter. the Alpha Chapter has a continuous history at Wesleyan. The Alpha also absorbed the last remnants of the last known legitimate national, (the one listed in Baird's), in 1988. The Alpha Chapter also has the original papers of the society, and certain confirmatory documents executed by the founders of the society. the Alpha has created three other chapters. That is the extent of legitimate Theta Nu Epsilon. There is an organization at Berkeley that is descended from a Theta Nu Epsilon chapter, which does not contest the legitimacy of the National. A similar situation applies at Alabama.

There is a group of students at Nebraska. Nebraska had a legit chapter up to about 1908. A bogus chapter was created there in the 30's. This illegit chapter is an embarassment to Nebraska; it issues an annual sheet every year which labels other students 'faggots' and 'sluts'. It has had equally disreputable chapters at Kansas and Kansas State. This is what Fratitude represents.

Everything he claims about what he calls Theta Nu Epsilon is baseless. He knows it, and is doing it intentionally.

As you might have been able to tell, we have been through this before, and he has dragged this to greekchat.com


The truth is, Fratitude is a member of a fraud. And the National is unmasking that fraud, and that is really pissing him off.


Read the other thread in General Chat Topics > Chit Chat if you have any doubts.

[Taconicus]

Originally Posted by mystikchick

Ah, I see. I understand where you are coming from now - the Wesleyan chapter certainly does not seem to be at all like the way the chapter at, for example, Bama has been described. Mystical Seven is a whole other ball game, but I had never heard that the same person was involved with both TNE and M7. Just thought I would pipe in as an alum and make sure you weren't confusing the two

There are plenty of Wesleyan M7 and TNE, as there have been plenty of DKE and TNE and Alpha Delt, Psi Upsilon, Beta, Eclectic and others.

TNE is a class society, not a fraternity, so there is no conflict in belonging to both.

(There were a lot of Eclectic. In the 80's, TNE had an annual event in the 3rd floor room of Eclectic.)