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bluemay414 · #1 09-13-2007, 10:21 AM

I don't think this is a bit funny. This really does happen and it is disgusting! My boyfriend witnessed this firsthand. His frat was matched with a sorority that made the pledges line up nude and the guys circled their fat.

When they were pledges their actives took them to strip clubs and bought them lap dances.

MysticCat · #2 09-13-2007, 10:31 AM

And this one time, at band camp . . . .

srmom · #3 09-13-2007, 10:36 AM

Who lined up nude, the guys or the girls?

I think that story is either complete and total BS or the worst instance of debauchery that I have ever heard. That is why I think it is BS.

And, HORRORS, guys taking guys to strip clubs.... I'm sorry, this just doesn't shock (or bother) me. And, I am a mother of 3 boys.

Bottom line, if you are not comfortable with what is going on in an organization that you are a part of, then quit.

AlethiaSi · #4 09-13-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by srmom

Who lined up nude, the guys or the girls?

I think that story is either complete and total BS or the worst instance of debauchery that I have ever heard. That is why I think it is BS.

And, HORRORS, guys taking guys to strip clubs.... I'm sorry, this just doesn't shock (or bother) me. And, I am a mother of 3 boys.

Bottom line, if you are not comfortable with what is going on in an organization that you are a part of, then quit.

The girls lined up naked. And unfortunately, I've heard way worse stories from friends in other sororities, from friends in fraternities. Unless they are all lying, it isn't BS though I wish it was.

It is awful and horrible and it is illegal for a reason, I hope/wish these archaic, unnecessary practices die off asap.

This makes me grateful I joined my org.

srmom · #5 09-13-2007, 11:15 AM

The only thing that makes me believe that this kind of thing is not happening in this day and age is with the advent of youtube and myspace - cell phone pictures would be circulating and it would be all over the web.

It is much harder to get away with things that are either this disgusting or titillating (to sickos). Someone will blab with hard photo evidence.

IMO, a lineup of nude 18 year old girls would be too much temptation for some guys to not pull out a camera phone to memorialize the moment, and then post it because they think they are so cool.

But, I could be wrong, it's happened before.

AlphaFrog · #6 09-13-2007, 11:18 AM

You'd like to think that college students are smart enough not to leave proof of illegal activities...but I've seen WAAAY too much evidence to the contrary.

I'm inclined to think you're right, srmom.
Although I don't doubt that it happens some places, I doubt it's to the extent that some would like you to believe.

bluemay414 · #7 09-13-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by srmom

Who lined up nude, the guys or the girls?

I think that story is either complete and total BS or the worst instance of debauchery that I have ever heard. That is why I think it is BS.

And, HORRORS, guys taking guys to strip clubs.... I'm sorry, this just doesn't shock (or bother) me. And, I am a mother of 3 boys.

Bottom line, if you are not comfortable with what is going on in an organization that you are a part of, then quit.

You are one of the reasons this kind of practice is tolerated. It is NOT BS and it is not very classy to say the least!!

srmom · #8 09-13-2007, 11:21 AM

And Bluemay, I certainly wouldn't tolerate it. If I heard of an instance of 18 year old girls being lined up naked in front of a fraternity, I would do anything in my power to bring down whoever made or allowed that kind of thing happen.

That is disgusting to even suggest that I would tolerate something like that.

Has your boyfriend done anything to make sure this doesn't happen again. Did he contact his nationals, or the university, or even the police, to let them know that this type of thing is occuring, or has occured at his house? Have you?

Doing nothing after the fact does not exonerate one from culpability, the event could occur in the future and how would you or your boyfriend feel knowing that his chapter house was full of a bunch of degenerates and you did nothing to stop this type of behavior?

MysticCat · #9 09-13-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bluemay414

I don't think this is a bit funny. This really does happen and it is disgusting! My boyfriend witnessed this firsthand. His frat was matched with a sorority that made the pledges line up nude and the guys circled their fat.

Just curious. Are you in a sorority? Was your boyfriend one of those boyfriends who didn't want you to join a sorority?

Low C Sharp · #10 09-13-2007, 12:02 PM

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The only thing that makes me believe that this kind of thing is not happening in this day and age is with the advent of youtube and myspace - cell phone pictures would be circulating and it would be all over the web.

I'm not sure about this. Imagine cell-phone pictures of sorority or fraternity initiation ceremonies. They would be GREAT youtube fodder, but you don't see them anywhere. That doesn't mean that the ceremonies aren't happening. It just means no one has been posting pictures...so far.
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AlexMack · #11 09-13-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

I'm not sure about this. Imagine cell-phone pictures of sorority or fraternity initiation ceremonies. They would be GREAT youtube fodder, but you don't see them anywhere. That doesn't mean that the ceremonies aren't happening. It just means no one has been posting pictures...so far.

Naked chicks are not the same as ritual. Have you ever carried your cellphone or digital camera into any of your ceremonies? I never have and I'm fairly certain no other NPC organization allows it either.

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Tell someone? Come one! First of all there is the proof. The so called "popular" groups are the worst and they have power. There is intimidation used and who wants to be the one to 'rat them out'. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that there are rules broken all the time, but everyone turns a blind eye to it. I'm just saying it is wrong and I'm disgusted that it happens and especially allowed among these so called 'popular' groups. I have found that the 'popular' groups (in HS and College) are filled with some of the meanest people. The other members are so terrified of the others that they go along with things so they won't be turned on themselves. And if anyone out there says this is hogwash, then fine, believe what you want. All I can say is, I know what I know. Don't believe me if you don't want to. But this forum is about Hazing and I just thought some people might want a heads up before getting themselves involved in something that they will not feel comfortable with. And be prepared to do A LOT of drinking! If you don't like to drink, this might be a huge problem for you in becoming a pledge. A LOT of Sororities and esp. Fraturnities will be making you drink a lot of alchohol. For real!

And this keeps getting funnier...are you even greek?