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09-12-2007, 12:24 PM
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And I am sorry to say this...but...you have people out there that say "well racism is going away" or "Get over it" or "Slavery was a long time we have changed, let it go"
But the more I keep hearing stories like this I have to say..."WHY?"
This isn't an attack, mind you or a Black vs White thing but it just boils my blood when I hear people say these things and then stories pop up like this.
Then you have the Jena 6 and the College Park incident
There are obviously some people out there who need some letting go to do thier own selves.
Worst of all this is coming from kids just barely in thier 20s so I ask...
Where are they learning this from? Home.
James posted an article about 2 pre teen kids who are espousing hate by using Adolf Hitler as thier platform.
Sure the article is 2 years old but still when you hear kids being brain trained to hate (for the sake of hate's sake) it indicates that we aren't progressing any further than we did LAST century.
There was another article about 2 weeks ago that the KKK in Manassas VA supports the govt' proposed ban to provide govt services to illegal immigrants or immigrants with questionable status....
People post info about here often about these racially insane issues going on and I noted that many don't comment but but more than enough peek in to see....let's stay informed and also let's not be afraid to comment because this is the place where we have to raise OUR kids.
But it still makes me ask....
What is this world coming to?
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What seems to be embedded in your argument is that if incidents like this and Jena 6 (and the U of M noose incident) didn't occur, it would be understandable when folks say that racism is no longer an issue and that it would be understandable that folks say we all need to get over it.
These overt acts of intolerance and group privilege don't serve as THE examples of the existence of racism. Examples exist all day everyday throughout various social institutions and without much fanfare.
So when you act particularly surprised over such acts for the sake of "racism," it only does a disservice to the larger cause. The larger cause isn't contingent upon the existence of racial bigots. So I'm only disgusted over these recent incidents for the sake of humanity and intelligence.
I haven't gotten my "no justice, no peace" hat out of the closet because this stuff happened. I never put the hat in the closet.  Of course we haven't progressed. Only people who are looking for the noose in their backyard or for the "coloreds only" water fountain actually think the absence thereof means progression. Instead, the absence thereof means the evolution of racist ideology and structure.
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09-12-2007, 12:46 PM
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What seems to be embedded in your argument is that if incidents like this and Jena 6 (and the U of M noose incident) didn't occur, it would be understandable when folks say that racism is no longer an issue and that it would be understandable that folks say we all need to get over it.
These overt acts of intolerance and group privilege don't serve as THE examples of the existence of racism. Examples exist all day everyday throughout various social institutions and without much fanfare.
So when you act particularly surprised over such acts for the sake of "racism," it only does a disservice to the larger cause. The larger cause isn't contingent upon the existence of racial bigots. So I'm only disgusted over these recent incidents for the sake of humanity and intelligence.
I haven't gotten my "no justice, no peace" hat out of the closet because this stuff happened. I never put the hat in the closet. Of course we haven't progressed. Only people who are looking for the noose in their backyard or for the "coloreds only" water fountain actually think the absence thereof means progression. Instead, the absence thereof means the evolution of racist ideology and structure. |
No I am sure that for every ONE story that gets posted...there are at least 4 more that we may never hear about....What I am trying to say is that it makes me mad are the folks that want us to bury our heads in the sand and act like it's NOT going on at all which of course would be foolish!
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09-12-2007, 12:59 PM
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No I am sure that for every ONE story that gets posted...there are at least 4 more that we may never hear about....What I am trying to say is that it makes me mad are the folks that want us to bury our heads in the sand and act like it's NOT going on at all which of course would be foolish!
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Those folks can go to hell because they are contributing to the problem whether they are conscious or not.
My point is that people who are looking for a "story" or an incident will miss out of the fact that racism is more silent, covert and institutionalized than it is overt. So of course these folks will argue that there isn't any racism just because there haven't been any "news worthy" incidents to report about.
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09-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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The larger cause isn't contingent upon the existence of racial bigots. So I'm only disgusted over these recent incidents for the sake of humanity and intelligence.
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AMEN TO THAT!
if this had been 6 black people who beat a latino, or 6 arabs who beat a white person, its still equally sick, and an equal setback for society.
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09-12-2007, 12:57 PM
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AMEN TO THAT!
if this had been 6 black people who beat a latino, or 6 arabs who beat a white person, its still equally sick, and an equal setback for society.
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u know whats funny...there is (or was) a case pending now where 4 blacks beat and killed a white couple....never made national news....long story how I head about it...
http://www.volunteertv.com/special/h...s/5483316.html
The ONLY difference is....that was not considered a hate crime....
A headscratcher this is!
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09-12-2007, 12:59 PM
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i heard about that too Daemon...also what about the 4 people shot (3 killed) by that latino up north a few weeks ago? i believe it was in NJ, i could be wrong...
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09-12-2007, 01:02 PM
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and one of the killers was an illegal immigrant from Peru
http://www.abclocal.go.com/wpvi/stor...cal&id=5611050
yea.....pretty f'ed up
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09-12-2007, 01:16 PM
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i heard about that too Daemon...also what about the 4 people shot (3 killed) by that latino up north a few weeks ago? i believe it was in NJ, i could be wrong...
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and the part that makes this bad is that they still (as far as I know) don't have any motives behind this....
I am curious what motivated those folks in Logan to hold this woman....I heard a rumor that she was lured there over the internet....go figger....
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09-12-2007, 01:26 PM
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brains are sexy.
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09-12-2007, 01:30 PM
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brains are sexy.
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They look kind of lumpy and veiny to me.
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09-12-2007, 01:47 PM
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and the part that makes this bad is that they still (as far as I know) don't have any motives behind this....
I am curious what motivated those folks in Logan to hold this woman....I heard a rumor that she was lured there over the internet....go figger....
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do people not watch "to catch a predator" on tv?? it doesnt just happen to kids...
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09-12-2007, 09:53 PM
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u know whats funny...there is (or was) a case pending now where 4 blacks beat and killed a white couple....never made national news...
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Are we keeping score?
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09-13-2007, 06:38 AM
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no.....just making you aware.....because after I read about it...I kind of wondered the same thing myself....thank you
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