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					Originally Posted by UGAalum94  Well, she might know more now that two rounds of cuts have been made. You know that she has tight connections on your campus, right? 
 But, no offense, there's really no upside for you with either scenario is there?
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				09-07-2007, 10:23 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by MVisKD  I am APPALLED to see how disrespectful and plain rude most of the posters on GC have turned out to be...not only on this thread but so many others. It is really disappointing that so many greeks are using this website not to promote and enjoy their chapters, read about others' experiences and perhaps reminisce about their "glory days" but instead as a forum to make fun of others and stomp on others' self esteem. |  And UGA Alum, I wasn't meaning you in particular..I just meant overall.
		 
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				09-07-2007, 10:28 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by MVisKD  I am APPALLED to see how disrespectful and plain rude most of the posters on GC have turned out to be...not only on this thread but so many others. It is really disappointing that so many greeks are using this website not to promote and enjoy their chapters, read about others' experiences and perhaps reminisce about their "glory days" but instead as a forum to make fun of others and stomp on others' self esteem. |  I understand what you mean, but in this particular instance, the OP herself quoted two posts to  call attention to them, and it's hard to see why that was a good thing for her to have done.
 
Why does she want to call attention to the possibilities that either only a few chapters will consider her as a junior or that she got cut heavily when junior status wouldn't have been the reason.
 
I wouldn't have pointed it out myself, and I was genuinely perplexed that she did.
 
I don't think I am usually one of the rude posters on the offensive, especially with new people, not that it matters, but having been so direct about many of the groups, can this OP expect others to treat her with kid gloves?
		 
			
			
			
			
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				09-07-2007, 10:30 PM
			
			
			
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			[quote=UGAalum94;1515281And you might be advised to turn down your self-righteousness as well.  It's hardly in the spirit of good will and kindness.[/quote]
 Pardon?
 
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				09-07-2007, 10:35 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by MVisKD  Pardon? |  I deleted that section because I saw your follow up post. 
 
But yeah, if you're going to lecture people, you probably won't get a better response than you've been seeing. I know that  from personal experience with the issue here.
 
There are some longtime regular posters who are really sassy. It seems mean, but they you kind of get used to it.
 
If I made all the rules, I'd like people to be sweeter, especially to new people, but most of the sassy folks have been on here the longest, so it's kind of their ball game.
 
We can play by their rules or go home.
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					Originally Posted by UGAalum94  I deleted that section because I saw your follow up post. 
 But yeah, if you're going to lecture people, you probably won't get a better response than you've been seeing. I know that  from personal experience with the issue here.
 
 There are some longtime regular posters who are really sassy. It seems mean, but they you kind of get used to it.
 
 If I made all the rules, I'd like people to be sweeter, especially to new people, but most of the sassy folks have been on here the longest, so it's kind of their ball game.
 
 We can play by their rules or go home.
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It's kind of the whole "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch" type thing, huh?
 
I didn't join this forum to b*tch people out or judge their lives, and don't want to read others doing so either, so I guess I will bow out and stay on the porch, so to say.
 
Y'all have fun!    
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				09-07-2007, 10:51 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by MVisKD  I see.  
It's kind of the whole "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch" type thing, huh?
 
I didn't join this forum to b*tch people out or judge their lives, and don't want to read others doing so either, so I guess I will bow out and stay on the porch, so to say.
 
Y'all have fun!   |  Well, that's not the argument that I would make, but it's probably not realistic to expect to effect much of a change  in the general tone. 
 
I suppose you can make a small difference by showing up and posting the responses that you think the OPs deserve, but lecturing other users just results in flame wars, and nobody ends up looking good. 
 
Some of the worst train wreck threads seem to have "you guys are mean, mean bullies" as one of the recurring themes. It doesn't seem to help with the general image of Greek Life for everyone to look unhinged, in the name of kindness especially.
 
Just post your ideas but don't expect to control others, unless it's by inspiring example.
		 
			
			
			
			
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				09-07-2007, 11:17 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by UGAalum94  Well, that's not the argument that I would make, but it's probably not realistic to expect to effect much of a change  in the general tone. 
 I suppose you can make a small difference by showing up and posting the responses that you think the OPs deserve, but lecturing other users just results in flame wars, and nobody ends up looking good.
 
 Some of the worst train wreck threads seem to have "you guys are mean, mean bullies" as one of the recurring themes. It doesn't seem to help with the general image of Greek Life for everyone to look unhinged, in the name of kindness especially.
 
 Just post your ideas but don't expect to control others, unless it's by inspiring example.
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					Originally Posted by MVisKD  I am APPALLED to see how disrespectful and plain rude most of the posters on GC have turned out to be...not only on this thread but so many others. It is really disappointing that so many greeks are using this website not to promote and enjoy their chapters, read about others' experiences and perhaps reminisce about their "glory days" but instead as a forum to make fun of others and stomp on others' self esteem. |  And come on now, don't you see how this might be a tad self-righteous? At least a little smidgen? You're APPALLED?
 
Did you read the whole thread here with all the posts and descriptions of chapters that have now been deleted?
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					Originally Posted by UGAalum94   Did you read the whole thread here with all the posts and descriptions of chapters that have now been deleted?
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				09-07-2007, 10:46 PM
			
			
			
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			OTW,
 I just have to think that some of the people posting didn't get a change to read them. I don't want you to post them or anything. Or at least until her rush is over.
 
 I really enjoyed the thread and I think the OP is quite funny and direct. But it's just really odd to me that people are reacting the way they have in her defense.
 
 The OP is pretty sassy herself and she just doesn't seem like the right candidate for the appeal to kindness.
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				09-07-2007, 10:54 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by UGAalum94  And come on now, don't you see how this might be a tad self-righteous? At least a little smidgen? You're APPALLED?
 Did you read the whole thread here with all the posts and descriptions of chapters that have now been deleted?
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I will say it again, I am APPALLED. And not just on this thread, so many of the threads I have been reading are the same offenders just bitching people out and telling them they suck, their daughters suck, their grammar sucks, they don't know how to be a parent, that they aren't going to get the sorority they want, etc, etc. 
 
I read LMV's posts from day 1 and think she is entitled to her own opinion and deserves to be supported by the people who choose to read her posts. She didn't come here to get bashed, she just wanted to share her story. I personally was not offended by anything she said, nor will I be, even if something negative is/was said about my house. Chapters are as different as all of us are...Even though I think my house is awesome at my particular college, that doesn't mean that everyone else thinks that or that my same house is good at other colleges. Maybe I am not as into it, I don't know. That's just me. 
 
So I am sorry if that seems self righteous - but I would rather be self righteous than hurtful to someone, especially someone I don't know who is young and vulnerable. 
 
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				09-07-2007, 11:00 PM
			
			
			
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			I don't think people have a blanket expectation of support here or elsewhere. 
 I'd institute a basic expectation of polite treatment if I ran the show, but I don't.
 
 But I think you can expect to get back basically the same attitude that you project here.
 
 The OP was pretty critical of many of the chapters, so it seems a little silly to expect that everyone was obligated to support and affirm her.
 
 But I also don't think she's the kind of person who is really bothered by random internet criticism, so very little harm is done.
 
 As I've said several times, it was a fun thread to read and I hope she gets a bid that she wants, but I wouldn't describe her approach to recruitment or posting a recruitment story as exemplary, and apparently, she's realized that too.
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				09-07-2007, 11:06 PM
			
			
			
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			popcorn anyone???
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				09-07-2007, 11:10 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by hannahgirl  popcorn anyone??? |  I don't think it's going to go that way, but I might be wrong.
 
I'm certainly not that fired up by it.
 
This just seems like a weird, weird place to make an argument for kindness to the OP. (not that she doesn't deserve it; she does as much as anyone)
 
But it wasn't a particularly kind thread from the very first description of rounds. 
 
I think that's what most of us liked about it.
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