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Old 09-06-2007, 04:37 PM
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The actual process of getting wood doesnt worry me because compared to pledging, this is nothing. However, it's my morals that get in the way. Granted that the brotherhood my fraternity shares is very much strong and alive, that is about the only thing I agree with in the organization. The hazing, the lies, and everything else is something I cannot accept. So at this point my dilemma lies in the fact that by giving up this fraternity, I will be closing myself to an entire social group which I have gotten to know well. I feel as if I am turning my back on the brothers that gave me a bid in the first place. I stand to lose much by DA(Brothers,Social Status,Chance to ever be in another Org) but how can I stay in the organization knowing that I disagree with so many of the things going on within it? What should I do?
I have to say that your post was kind of long and I didn't read it in detail, but I have to question your integrity if you're willing to stay in an organization that goes against your morals simply because you want the social status that comes with it.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:42 PM
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I have to say that your post was kind of long and I didn't read it in detail, but I have to question your integrity if you're willing to stay in an organization that goes against your morals simply because you want the social status that comes with it.
Touche, however, my original post may have come off as a bit callous. I meant to say that I have made some real friendships during my time pledging, and while my pledge brothers have assured me that they will be with me no matter what I decide, I'm pretty sure not everyone would be so forgiving. What I am loathe to give up is the friendships I have made. I guess one can argue that if someone breaks off a friendship because you are doing something you want to do then he isn't your friend at all but somehow I keep convincing myself that I'm the one that's doing the betrayal if I DA
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:43 PM
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isn't it a little early for all this deactivation talk?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:49 PM
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isn't it a little early for all this deactivation talk?
Granted I just got into the fraternity and have not experienced much beyong pledging, I feel like I've gotten a taste of what it is and so far there is alot that I didnt expect to happen within the brotherhood. If I wait then I will be initialized, I will take the wood and then it will be that much harder to turn my back on the organization. Even now the choice is so incredibly hard. How will I feel if I am initialized and then decide to DA?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:52 PM
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Touche, however, my original post may have come off as a bit callous. I meant to say that I have made some real friendships during my time pledging, and while my pledge brothers have assured me that they will be with me no matter what I decide, I'm pretty sure not everyone would be so forgiving. What I am loathe to give up is the friendships I have made. I guess one can argue that if someone breaks off a friendship because you are doing something you want to do then he isn't your friend at all but somehow I keep convincing myself that I'm the one that's doing the betrayal if I DA
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:04 PM
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QFT. If you really feel as though you would be missing out if you left, then stay and change the system.
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