UIUC Rush Story

[sarasmile]

Sorry ladies - my husband inadvertently deleted my screen shots.

(He assumed that since my project was done that I didn't need the data anymore - of course, I hadn't spelled out to him that I was saving descriptions of sorority houses from recruitment. He might have looked at me like I was nuts then. )

OTW should still have the e-mails, and I don't see why it would be objectionable for her to re-post the info. littlemissvixen only wanted to keep the descriptions down until after recruitment - I don't believe she cares one way or the other if the stuff gets reposted.

[littlemissvixen]

by the way, deltabetababy, how old ARE you?? you joined GC in 2001 when i graduated 8th grade. seriously you're still at u of i participating in recruitment....? and if not, seriously you're still so concerned with recruitment?? lame.

[sarasmile]

Originally Posted by littlemissvixen

by the way, deltabetababy, how old ARE you?? you joined GC in 2001 when i graduated 8th grade. seriously you're still at u of i participating in recruitment....? and if not, seriously you're still so concerned with recruitment?? lame.

She could be serving in some capacity as an advisor or alumnae volunteer. You'll learn once you experience recruitment from the chapter side that alumnae are a very important part of recruitment behind the scenes.

And, of course, your sorority membership is not just limited to your undergraduate career - you'll spend a far greater portion of your life as an alumnae member than you will as an undergraduate. (Especially in your case, having joined as a junior.)

Originally Posted by littlemissvixen

by the way, deltabetababy, how old ARE you?? you joined GC in 2001 when i graduated 8th grade. seriously you're still at u of i participating in recruitment....? and if not, seriously you're still so concerned with recruitment?? lame.

I must be ancient then, because I'm just a few years older than DBB.

I'd hate to find out what LMV thinks of the 20, 30, 40 year members who still religiously help out at rush every year. Yall must hella jurassic.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by littlemissvixen

by the way, deltabetababy, how old ARE you?? you joined GC in 2001 when i graduated 8th grade. seriously you're still at u of i participating in recruitment....? and if not, seriously you're still so concerned with recruitment?? lame.

First, congratulations on your bid. I hope you loved the parties, love the house, and love the sisters in it. You've worked hard for it.

Now, let's talk about the above post of yours. You do have a house, don't you? Do you honestly think that YOUR dues will cover all of its upkeep? Of course not - you're a junior, and more sensible than that. Beautiful is rarely inexpensive. Let me explain:

It's those lame, ancient alumnae who genuinely believe in the standards, creed, symphony, whatever behind your sorority who are donating money of their own free will to keep all of their sorority houses across the country (or two) looking fine and being insured, etc. It's those lame, ancient alumnae who have been working sight unseen in the kitchens, offices, and other rooms, making sure that the sisters have time to entertain the PNMs without too much worry. It's those lame, ancient alumnae who volunteer at each school, your GLO philanthropies, and write recs for the PNMs, so they can enjoy the benefits of being in a sorority.

It's those same lame, ancient alumnae who, after donating much of their time and money, care enough about that chapter (and others) to keep an eye on Recruitment and hope that the chapter did well.

Whether you decide to do so or not, you owe each of those lame, ancient alumnae a huge apology. Without them, there would be no fairly run greek system, there would be no gorgeous houses, there would be no lovely parties, and, for those who are currently New Members who do not fully appreciate the work of those alumnae, there may be no initiation.

You've gotten through life thus far expressing yourself as you'd like. It's time to understand that the feelings of others count, too. It's a sign of being a truly appreciated sorority woman.

Good luck in your New Member period.

[RollTide08]

Originally Posted by honeychile

First, congratulations on your bid. I hope you loved the parties, love the house, and love the sisters in it. You've worked hard for it.

It's those lame, ancient alumnae who genuinely believe in the standards, creed, symphony, whatever behind your sorority who are donating money of their own free will to keep all of their sorority houses across the country (or two) looking fine and being insured, etc. It's those lame, ancient alumnae who have been working sight unseen in the kitchens, offices, and other rooms, making sure that the sisters have time to entertain the PNMs without too much worry. It's those lame, ancient alumnae who volunteer at each school, your GLO philanthropies, and write recs for the PNMs, so they can enjoy the benefits of being in a sorority.

It's those same lame, ancient alumnae who, after donating much of their time and money, care enough about that chapter (and others) to keep an eye on Recruitment and hope that the chapter did well.

There are several alums to whom I am very much grateful for all they've done. But you'd be naive to believe that all alums are involved strictly because of the goodness of their hearts. I have friends in every sorority on my campus, and all of them have horror stories during Rush regarding alums trying to bully them into taking the girls they want/don't want. One of my roommates had an alum corner her and threaten to pull her pin if she didn't vote against an IN HOUSE LEGACY coming through. I have personally been told that I didn't deserve to be in my house because I vouched personally for a girl who an alum had written a negative rec for (because she beat said alum's daughter out for cheerleading) There are amazing alum who take to heart the sorority's creed and care for the good of the house. But there are just as many who are intent on living out their glory days by harrassing members during Rush. I have no doubt that some of this type exist on this message board. Please consider this before you make blanket statements.

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by RollTide08

There are several alums to whom I am very much grateful for all they've done. But you'd be naive to believe that all alums are involved strictly because of the goodness of their hearts. I have friends in every sorority on my campus, and all of them have horror stories during Rush regarding alums trying to bully them into taking the girls they want/don't want. One of my roommates had an alum corner her and threaten to pull her pin if she didn't vote against an IN HOUSE LEGACY coming through. I have personally been told that I didn't deserve to be in my house because I vouched personally for a girl who an alum had written a negative rec for (because she beat said alum's daughter out for cheerleading) There are amazing alum who take to heart the sorority's creed and care for the good of the house. But there are just as many who are intent on living out their glory days by harrassing members during Rush. I have no doubt that some of this type exist on this message board. Please consider this before you make blanket statements.

Can we put this in the helimom thread?

hehehe j/k.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by RollTide08

There are several alums to whom I am very much grateful for all they've done. But you'd be naive to believe that all alums are involved strictly because of the goodness of their hearts. I have friends in every sorority on my campus, and all of them have horror stories during Rush regarding alums trying to bully them into taking the girls they want/don't want. One of my roommates had an alum corner her and threaten to pull her pin if she didn't vote against an IN HOUSE LEGACY coming through. I have personally been told that I didn't deserve to be in my house because I vouched personally for a girl who an alum had written a negative rec for (because she beat said alum's daughter out for cheerleading) There are amazing alum who take to heart the sorority's creed and care for the good of the house. But there are just as many who are intent on living out their glory days by harrassing members during Rush. I have no doubt that some of this type exist on this message board. Please consider this before you make blanket statements.

While unfortunately true at times, on this particular thread, I must say that an apology IS warranted. To indicate that someone has no life because she is interested in her chapter or sorority in general past her college years does not bode well for the investment a chapter would make in a person who feels this way.

I would like to think the percentage of times I've openly criticized someone speaks for itself. I do so when there's a slight chance of redemption.

ETA: Which does not mean I'm naive enough to expect one - this time.

[littlemissvixen]

no, good luck to you and anyone else trying to nail me down! i wish you all the best. let me know when you've figured it out ;-).

[littlemissvixen]

not so much the helping as the GC creeping and some people's criticism and genuine mean spiritedness towards girls 1/2 their age? i'm just saying that by the time you're not in college, you should probably have other concerns/a life in general. if i'm in law school and still posting on here, someone please call me out on it...

[deadbear80]

Originally Posted by littlemissvixen

not so much the helping as the GC creeping and some people's criticism and genuine mean spiritedness towards girls 1/2 their age? i'm just saying that by the time you're not in college, you should probably have other concerns/a life in general. if i'm in law school and still posting on here, someone please call me out on it...

I'm sorry...I tried to stay out of it but this post had me MAD!

If you really did join a sorority (and bless their little hearts they probably have NO idea what they've gotten themselves into if you're this rude in person) then you will learn (as stated) that membership in a sorority CAN AND DOES last a lifetime. NO chapter thrives without the help of dedicated alumnae who serve as advisors and alumnae chapters who dedicate time and energy into seeing that collegian women get the same opportunities we did.

I AM a lawyer. I DID post on here while in law school. Why? Because I'm connected to the greek community as whole as an alum. I'm a member of my local Delta Gamma alumnae chapter. I pay alumnae dues (some of which go to our Executive Offices so that they can function and provide for support for our collegiate chapters--those people out of college who get PAID to work for the fraternity so that there's someone out there looking out for the chapters). I even helped out my chapter with recruitment (8 years after going through recruitment myself) because they needed alums to help out and do things that collegians aren't allowed to do (like leave the room to get supplies when they don't make it into the space like they're supposed to).

A lot of us here on GC are out of school. We like to know what's going on in the 'greek world' because we know that our membership goes on past college. It's not 'not having a life' it's about sharing experiences with each other and helping other women and men out. Support is key in life no matter what you do.

If you really think we have no lives, just stop coming here. No one's making you stay (and don't let the door hit your butt on the way out--it'll hurt something awful!)

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by littlemissvixen

not so much the helping as the GC creeping and some people's criticism and genuine mean spiritedness towards girls 1/2 their age? i'm just saying that by the time you're not in college, you should probably have other concerns/a life in general. if i'm in law school and still posting on here, someone please call me out on it...

Princess, if you act this way in law school you are not going to have a pleasurable 3 years.

[mystikchick]

Honeychile, you have so much graciousness even when pointing out the unfortunate attitude of the OP that it's truly wonderful. You are amazing.

[littlemissvixen]

um, yeah, no one's getting an apology. i don't really care how many t-shirts you have, if you spend your days as an adult criticizing people on GC, i think that's pretty sad. there's a difference in being interested in your chapter/sorority and being a lifetime member, and obsessing over random threads in GC. lots of you seem to be reading alot more into what i say than is actually there and then freaking out about it. also, why should i respect alumnae of various chapters not even my own?? um, ok, they joined a sorority and possibly finished 4 years of school and now spend time writing thousands of posts on GC. how does that equal respect? lol and as those of you complaining about my attitude... i try to post a recruitment story, admittedly a bit shallow but not mean-spirited in any way, and am immediately attacked and threatened, then expected to just take it as good advice? not happening.

[xowest]

Originally Posted by littlemissvixen

um, yeah, no one's getting an apology. i don't really care how many t-shirts you have, if you spend your days as an adult criticizing people on GC, i think that's pretty sad.

I have to say that, initially, I agreed with the posters who felt littlemissvixen was being unfairly picked on. Although her original posts would have benefited by being toned down a bit, I appreciated her honesty. Unfortunately, it is true that, in the early rounds, a lot of judgments are made based upon appearances. It is not fair to think that people are going to get to know each other in any meaningful way during a fifteen minute (at best) conversation. Littlemissvixen's posts reflected this reality.

However, littlemissvixen's recent posts are truly mean spirited and immature. As indicated by the quote above, even littlemissvixen does not yet view herself as an adult. However, littlemissvixen, as a junior in college, you are an adult. Grow up and be a little more thoughtful with your comments. Even if someone posting on here has been out of school for a while, the fact that people remain interested in their sorority (which is a lifelong commitment) is a postive thing- not a negative.

Good luck to you with your new chapter. Maybe just think a little before you type?