2007-2008 NCAA Football

[AOIIalum]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

^^^ I think I love this guy.

I think I do, too.

And, since y'all expect it...GO BIG BLUE!!!

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

And, since y'all expect it...GO BIG BLUE!!!

As usual, you always have the best and most appropeate comment.

Go Cats!

[Kevin]

TSteven, if you want to live and die by the Sagarin ratings, that's fine. The SEC has been a couple points or less up on the #2 conference for both '06 and '07.

But in 2005? Next to last among BCS conferences.

CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS

1 BIG TEN (A) = 80.72 80.55 ( 1) 11
2 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 78.96 78.26 ( 4) 12
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.96 80.02 ( 2) 12
4 PAC-10 (A) = 77.92 78.65 ( 3) 10
5 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 75.28 74.92 ( 6) 12
6 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 74.44 75.02 ( 5) 3
7 BIG EAST (A) = 72.12 72.42 ( 7) 8
8 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 69.51 69.58 ( 8) 9
9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 65.02 64.69 ( 9) 12
10 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 63.20 62.28 ( 10) 13
11 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 61.90 61.49 ( 11) 9
12 GATEWAY (AA)= 57.07 55.53 ( 12) 8
13 SUN BELT (A) = 54.45 54.22 ( 13) 8
14 BIG SKY (AA)= 53.69 52.97 ( 15) 8
15 GREAT WEST (AA)= 53.42 52.65 ( 17) 6
16 SOUTHERN (AA)= 52.79 52.93 ( 16) 8
17 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 52.60 53.40 ( 14) 7
18 ATLANTIC 10 (AA)= 51.30 51.37 ( 18) 12
19 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 46.06 45.23 ( 19) 8
20 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 39.22 38.69 ( 20) 7
21 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 37.88 38.52 ( 21) 9
22 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 37.61 37.78 ( 22) 9
23 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 32.25 32.75 ( 24) 5
24 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 32.16 32.78 ( 23) 10
25 PIONEER (AA)= 26.88 26.47 ( 25) 9
26 NORTHEAST (AA)= 25.21 25.23 ( 26) 8
27 METRO ATLANTIC (AA)= 18.99 19.56 ( 27) 5
28 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 11.91 11.91 ( 28) 1
29 ***UNRATED*** (**)= -90.00 -90.00 ( 29) 1

or '04? Again, next to last among BCS conferences.

CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS

1 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.91 78.09 ( 2) 11
2 PAC-10 (A) = 77.84 78.89 ( 1) 10
3 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 76.98 76.98 ( 4) 2
4 BIG 12 (A) = 76.42 77.08 ( 3) 12
5 BIG TEN (A) = 75.63 75.29 ( 5) 11
6 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 74.13 74.31 ( 6) 12
7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 72.08 72.91 ( 7) 8
8 BIG EAST (A) = 71.98 71.56 ( 8) 7
9 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 67.40 68.40 ( 9) 10
10 ATLANTIC 10 (AA)= 65.74 65.14 ( 11) 12
11 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 65.66 66.75 ( 10) 11
12 SUN BELT (A) = 60.24 60.46 ( 12) 9
13 GREAT WEST (AA)= 56.73 56.72 ( 13) 6
14 BIG SKY (AA)= 55.90 56.49 ( 14) 8
15 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 55.69 56.35 ( 15) 14
16 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 55.53 55.73 ( 17) 6
17 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 54.93 55.78 ( 16) 8
18 SOUTHERN (AA)= 52.40 52.82 ( 18) 8
19 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 52.00 50.73 ( 20) 7
20 GATEWAY (AA)= 51.30 52.16 ( 19) 8
21 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 46.44 46.34 ( 21) 5
22 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 43.77 43.66 ( 22) 9
23 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 41.90 41.90 ( 23) 8
24 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 41.73 41.34 ( 24) 5
25 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 38.70 37.75 ( 25) 10
26 NORTHEAST (AA)= 35.26 35.10 ( 26) 8
27 PIONEER (AA)= 27.25 28.60 ( 27) 9
28 METRO ATLANTIC (AA)= 22.77 24.00 ( 28) 5
29 ***UNRATED*** (**)= -99.00 -99.00 ( 29) 1

Thank God for the Big East, eh?

So much for year in/year out. Like everyone else, the SEC has its ups and downs.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

We could go back and forth with all kinds of numbers, but I don't think either of us will change our minds.

Perhaps a better numbers game (subjective as hell) would be to ask all the coaches which conference they feel is the overall strongest conference. However, they could not rank/list their own conference. Then compare it with sports writers. I would venture to guess that the SEC would be ranked at or near the top most years. And if one was to compile the numbers over say ten or more years, I would guess there would be a perception - justified or not - that the SEC is strongest conference year in and year out.

[Cluey]

For some reason, I think a "Well, bless his little heart" comment is needed. Y'all sure are precious

[Kevin]

I agree with everything you said except for line 2 and below.

[amycat412]

U-C-L-A SUCKS da da da da da da da.

[CuriousWildcat]

Go Cats!!!

Music City again, but that is just fine with me! It is better than none at all! Plus Nashville is a fun city, which when you are in the band, that matters a LOT because we are there for several days and we need to be able to have fun night life!

[AOIIalum]

I just got home and checked Cats Pause to see where we were going. Apparently Music City is already sold out!

Go Big Blue!!

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by CuriousWildcat

Go Cats!!!

Music City again, but that is just fine with me! It is better than none at all! Plus Nashville is a fun city, which when you are in the band, that matters a LOT because we are there for several days and we need to be able to have fun night life!

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

I just got home and checked Cats Pause to see where we were going. Apparently Music City is already sold out!

Go Big Blue!!

Originally Posted by AOIIalum

I'd love to be in Nashville, but due to a holiday family reunion this year I can't. Maybe, just maybe, next year... and it's nice to type that and think it could be within the realm of possibility.

Amen Sisters, Amen!

On, On U of K!

[jojapeach]

I was hoping there'd be some miracle upon miracles where Georgia might have a decent shot at the national title. (I'm thinking Hawaii will only get a decent shot at the national title if they are undefeated next season.) I'm still in disbelief that LSU was pushed back up into the #2 spot just so they could play OSU. Then again, it's the BCS system. Why the hell am I shocked? Georgia Coach Mark Richt said it best: There needs to be documented (not unwritten) rule that only Conference Champs can play for the BCS title. LSU does not deserve to be there since they've obviously been ranked #1 twice but could not hold on to the title. I'm beyond upset.

Here's a link to the bowl games schedule in chronological order: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2836420

I can't cheer for OSU or LSU. OSU has never beat a SEC team for the championship in 8 attempts. LSU is SEC, and I love the SEC, but they're the wrong team.

On the bright side, *singing* Pour some SUGAR on meeeee!!! It'd be nice to see Hawaii do as well in the off-season as they did in the regular season, but I gotta stick with my DAWGS!

ETA: I can't believe I'm hearing the LSU coach talk about their "body of work".

[Kevin]

Hawaii's strength of schedule was 119th out of 119 teams in Division IA. Sagarin had it as 137th which means that at least 18 DIAA teams had tougher schedules than Hawaii.

Until they can fix that, they won't get into the MNC game.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Hawaii's strength of schedule was 119th out of 119 teams in Division IA. Sagarin had it as 137th which means that at least 18 DIAA teams had tougher schedules than Hawaii.

Let's hear it for the WAC. Not the strongest conference.

As an aside, Ohio State has done pretty well in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year.

[Kevin]

They went from #5 to #3 without playing a game... then the next week, they went from #3 to #1 sitting at home eating popcorn.

Sometimes you're better to be lucky than good.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by Kevin

They went from #5 to #3 without playing a game... then the next week, they went from #3 to #1 sitting at home eating popcorn.

If you're talking about Ohio State, you missed my point.

Nobody, especially the Buckeyes, expected them to be where they are.

As I understand it, not even Tressel expected to be much better than average this year.

The number one and two teams just keep getting upset, and those hovering around that fall into the slots.

Ohio State isn't the first, earlier this year a team, I think it was USC, jumped up something like seven places on a bye week as I recall

Nature abhors a vacuum.