|
» GC Stats |
Members: 331,903
Threads: 115,724
Posts: 2,207,984
|
| Welcome to our newest member, zbryanmaaley858 |
|
 |
|

08-29-2007, 06:49 PM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 696
|
|
|
The collegiate service fraternities/sororities are pretty much:
Alpha Phi Omega, co-ed National Service Fraternity
Gamma Sigma Sigma, National Service Sorority
Omega Phi Alpha, National Service Sorority
While many general (or social) greek letter orgs do service, its not their primary purpose, thus they really can't call themselves service GLOs.
And yes, there are many members of APO, GSS, and OPA, some of whom are members of other GLOs.
Prehaps your chapter can see if there are chapters of the above groups on campus and work with them, instead of competing.
__________________
Michael Brown
APO LM & TB
Chapter Advisor
Section 71 Chair
|

08-30-2007, 10:10 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,324
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by emb021
The collegiate service fraternities/sororities are pretty much:
Alpha Phi Omega, co-ed National Service Fraternity
Gamma Sigma Sigma, National Service Sorority
Omega Phi Alpha, National Service Sorority
While many general (or social) greek letter orgs do service, its not their primary purpose, thus they really can't call themselves service GLOs.
And yes, there are many members of APO, GSS, and OPA, some of whom are members of other GLOs.
Prehaps your chapter can see if there are chapters of the above groups on campus and work with them, instead of competing.
|
This is true but I just want to point out that service IS a primary purpose for the NPHC orgs in addition to Scholarship and Sister/Brotherhood. I believe that all the NPHC orgs are officially classified as both social and service. And since some of the service organizations have chapters that participate in step shows and other "social" activities/traditions common the NPHC, they can be viewed as social also.
__________________
ΣΓΡ
"True Beauties Wear 10 Pearls and 2 Rubies"
Last edited by rhoyaltempest; 08-30-2007 at 10:14 AM.
|

08-30-2007, 10:13 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,783
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
This is true but I just want to point out that service IS a primary purpose for the NPHC orgs in addition to Scholarship and Sister/Brotherhood. I believed that all the NPHC orgs are officially classified as both social and service.
|
Can we please not have this debate here? The original poster was not referring to NPHC organizations.
|

08-30-2007, 10:15 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,324
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senusret I
Can we please not have this debate here? The original poster was not referring to NPHC organizations.
|
There is no debate here. I'm simply stating the truth for those that may not be aware. And I can refer to anything I wish.
__________________
ΣΓΡ
"True Beauties Wear 10 Pearls and 2 Rubies"
|

08-30-2007, 10:17 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,783
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
There is no debate here. I'm simply stating the truth for those that may not be aware. And I can refer to anything I wish.
|
We have had this discussion time and time again and it gets OLD. You have not been here that long so you might not have known that.
|

08-30-2007, 10:15 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 696
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
This is true but I just want to point out that service IS a primary purpose for the NPHC orgs in addition to Scholarship and Sister/Brotherhood. I believed that all the NPHC orgs are officially classified as both social and service.
|
If service was a primary purpose of NPHC groups, they would be service GLOs. They are not. Legally, they are general/social.
This in NO WAY negates the importance of service in these groups. But service is the primary purpose of APO, GSS, and OPA, not the NPHC, NIC, NHC, etc groups.
__________________
Michael Brown
APO LM & TB
Chapter Advisor
Section 71 Chair
|

08-30-2007, 10:17 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,324
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by emb021
If service was a primary purpose of NPHC groups, they would be service GLOs. They are not. Legally, they are general/social.
This in NO WAY negates the importance of service in these groups. But service is the primary purpose of APO, GSS, and OPA, not the NPHC, NIC, NHC, etc groups.
|
Actually, legally my org is classified as both social and service.
__________________
ΣΓΡ
"True Beauties Wear 10 Pearls and 2 Rubies"
|

08-30-2007, 10:18 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,783
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
Actually, legally my org is classified as both social and service.
|
So men can pledge your organization?
|

08-30-2007, 10:20 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,324
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senusret I
So men can pledge your organization?
|
I know what you're getting at but I have seen the actual documentation before under certain articles; two that I can't remember right now. I think one of them is article 501.
__________________
ΣΓΡ
"True Beauties Wear 10 Pearls and 2 Rubies"
|

08-30-2007, 10:24 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 426
|
|
|
Still waiting to hear what, specifically, the OP is asking for help with.
|

08-31-2007, 02:38 PM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 913
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
I know what you're getting at but I have seen the actual documentation before under certain articles; two that I can't remember right now. I think one of them is article 501.
|
If your org is a 501(c)(7), then you are most definately a social org by designation of the classification. If your org is a 501(c)(3), you have more leeway into declaring yourself a service org.
__________________
Diamonds Are Forever, and Nupes are For Your Eyes Only
KAY<>FNP
|

08-30-2007, 11:11 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: metro Atlanta, GA
Posts: 330
|
|
My mom was in ESA when I was a kid. She went to nursing school, so she was not in a collegiate sorority, but she enjoyed ESA membership for many years in her 20's and 30's. In fact, there were a couple of different chapters in our small rural area and it was quite popular. I think at least one chapter is still going strong.
I was not aware there were collegiate chapters--I hope there is somebody here who has experience and some advice for you.
|

08-30-2007, 10:28 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,343
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
This is true but I just want to point out that service IS a primary purpose for the NPHC orgs in addition to Scholarship and Sister/Brotherhood. I believe that all the NPHC orgs are officially classified as both social and service. And since some of the service organizations have chapters that participate in step shows and other "social" activities/traditions common the NPHC, they can be viewed as social also.
|
Yes, this is true. The difference is in the focus. With OPhiA, the Sorority exists for service, and our sisterhood comes from that. We cannot have our sisterhood without the service. With Delta, the Sorority is a sisterhood, and what we do is service. We cannot perform our service without the sisterhood. With both types of organizations, both service and sisterhood are extremely important, but that difference in focus makes one a service GLO and the other a social GLO.
No one is implying that by labeling some orgs one thing and others another than any of these labels are insults - they are, first and foremost, legal definitions for Title IX.
__________________
Delta Sigma Theta "But if she wears the Delta symbol, then her first love is D-S-T ..."
Omega Phi Alpha "Blue like the colors of night and day, gold like the sun's bright shining ray ..."
|

08-30-2007, 10:36 AM
|
|
GreekChat Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,324
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTRen13
Yes, this is true. The difference is in the focus. With OPhiA, the Sorority exists for service, and our sisterhood comes from that. We cannot have our sisterhood without the service. With Delta, the Sorority is a sisterhood, and what we do is service. We cannot perform our service without the sisterhood. With both types of organizations, both service and sisterhood are extremely important, but that difference in focus makes one a service GLO and the other a social GLO.
No one is implying that by labeling some orgs one thing and others another than any of these labels are insults - they are, first and foremost, legal definitions for Title IX.
|
I love the way you explain things here...perfectly. But I know I have ran into far too many people who think Service is not a major priority for NPHC orgs; including those in other GLO's. This is undoubtedly due to the fact that many don't have any idea of our illustrious histories. So I was just making the point for those people.
__________________
ΣΓΡ
"True Beauties Wear 10 Pearls and 2 Rubies"
|

08-30-2007, 10:52 AM
|
|
Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hotel Oceanview
Posts: 34,574
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
I love the way you explain things here...perfectly.
|
Agreed - DSTRen, that was a GREAT post.
__________________
It is all 33girl's fault. ~DrPhil
|
 |
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|